Winter wheel/tire options for Performance Model 3 with Performance Upgrades

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Tsportline is sold out on the 18 inch styles, I can't even find any 20 inch snow tires that fit the wheels I currently have on. I have been looking at custom makers of wheel adapters to have some firm fit the 3mm ridge plus the 63.4 hub and then be able to make any size adapter so that people could buy any wheels they want...this seems like a good option if the adapter doesn't have to be to thick...has anyone tried this yet? I don't know of any other good fitting options...

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They have what you need for winter wheels and tires. I just bought a set 4-18" wheels and Michelin ICE tires, for my M3P+ (awd).

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https://www.tirerack.com/content/tirerack/desktop/en/homepage.html
 
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FastWheels FC04
They're already machining the backs of them to fit the Performance rotors.
IIRC, 1010tires.com is the official distributer in the states.
Don't bother trying to call these guys... I was on hold 30 minutes, and then they hung up on me. Tried again, same thing: after 30 minutes I was finally #1 and then they hung up on me.

Apparently they're too busy to be able to answer their phone.

Oh, I also made use of their "we'll call you back when a representative is available" feature, but they never called back.

I also tried their "Live Chat" but it wasn't chat at all... It just sent an email...

Pretty lousy service, IMHO.

Any other distributors for the FC04 in the USA?
 

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Hi folks -

I've recently taken delivery of my Model 3 - Performance AWD with the Performance Upgrade pack (20 inch wheels, upgraded brakes). Car is amazing and I love it!

I live in Ontario, Canada and will be needing winter tires. I don't want to put snow tires on the 20 inch wheels because the efficiency is going to be miserable in the winter and the traction likely too. Unfortunately, the Tesla 18 aero and 19 inch sport options do not work with Performance Upgrade pack equipped cars because of the brakes and the wheel fitment (now confirmed on Tesla website). I called Tesla and they said they have no information as to when / if they will update their options to have a Performance Upgrade compatible version (shocker :))

I'm wondering what others are doing here? The only real option that I've seen that is confirmed to work with Performance Upgrade cars is Tsportline wheels (see link below), but they are a bit expensive. I'd prefer something a bit cheaper, 18's, and as aero as I can get...

Any suggestions or comparable experience feedback would be great... Thanks!


https://tsportline.com/collections/...ckage-set-of-4-model-3?variant=18898371870838
The Tsportlines also come with the TPMS as well and are balanced and ready to mount. It's what I went with for simplicity and I also like the look for the Turbine Wheels.
 

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Absolutely www.canadawheels.ca can ship to the U.S., give them a try.

Note however that stock is getting really thin, here's our current inventory breakdown:

18x8.0 +30
Black: B/O, available Jan. 18th
Titanium: B/O, available Jan. 18th

18x8.0 +40
Black: B/O, available Jan. 18th
Titanium: B/O, available Jan. 18th
Bronze: 16 left

18x9.0 +30
Black: 20 left
Titanium: B/O, available Jan. 18th
Bronze: 100 left

18x9.0 +40
Black: B/O, available Feb. 28th
Titanium: B/O, available Jan. 18th
 
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I recently installed the Fast Wheels FC04, 18x8 +40 offset, with 3 mm wheel spacers on my performance model 3. I think they look pretty good. Below is a pic after crossing the the pass from Western Oregon over to Klamath Falls.

These wheels are LIGHT (as advertised), and seem like really good value. The fit and finish looks excellent. They clear the big performance brakes. The only downside was the ordering experience from 1010tires. As others have mentioned, their customer service stinks. I had similar experiences with dropped calls and non-functional online chat as BostonPilot outlined above. The good news in the end was that the wheels showed up, with the centering rings & lug nuts, and once they actually shipped (after a week+ of processing), they arrived quickly.

I put Nokian WR G4 tires on them, and I like the tires so far. I wanted a good all-rounder, for the Pacific Northwest. They made the steering feel lighter compared to the 20" Michelins, but the handling continues to feel solid.

One hesitation I had before buying was the +40 offset, versus +30. I think the +40 worked out okay, and I also think the +30 would provide a little better stance, albeit probably a subtle difference (especially since I'm using 3mm wheel spacers, so the acual difference is only 7 mm). Being a bit more tucked in with the +40 may help with winter range, so I don't feel too bummed about not being able to get the +30 in bronze.

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Here are a few more shots of the 18" FC04 wheels, +40 offset with 3mm spacers on my car, including a rear caliper clearance shot (not quite the perect angle, but you can get the picture. . . there's a few mm of clearance).
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Just put on new shoes for the winter on "Grey Matter." I was very much leaning towards the T Sportline 18"s but in the end decided to go with Tire Rack since these are winter tires.. still considering T Sportline for an alternative all weather option....especially with the loss of efficiency with the stock 20" wheel.

So I went with the Sports Edition 18" wheel and the Pirelli SottoZero 3 tires in 235-45-R18. My biggest concern was having heard reports some of the Tire Rack wheels not clearing the calipers on the performance threes, fortunately the SE A11s had no issues. Also, it took less that two miles of driving for the system to ask about the TPMS and wheel size for resetting. (sorry about the dirty car, apparently I ran through some mud)
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I'd like to know what y'all observe in difference in Wh.mile, 0-60 times and handling vs the 20" wheel/MP4S tires.

Compared to my 20 with summer tires I get about 12-14% better efficiency with the 19 and AS tires, which I have tested several times on the same course, same climate etc.
PIRELLI CINTURATO P7 ALL SEASON PLUS 19" T-sportline
They don't handle as well and I have not done a 0-60 times. It's still plenty fast!!!
 

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I just purchased Model 3 with the 20 in sport performance wheels.
I live in Missouri where is snows - sometimes more than 6 inches.
Does anyone have experience with the sport wheels in snow greater than 4 inches?
Or do I need to get the (non-available) winter tires?
 

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Always winter tires if you drive longer distances under 7 degrees Celsius.
Buy a second set of smaller rims with narrower winter tires.
 

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I just purchased Model 3 with the 20 in sport performance wheels.
I live in Missouri where is snows - sometimes more than 6 inches.
Does anyone have experience with the sport wheels in snow greater than 4 inches?
Or do I need to get the (non-available) winter tires?
Forget about snow.

The problem is that the tires that come on the 20" wheels are summer tires, not all-season tires. In particular, if you try to use them when they've been sitting outside in below-freezing temperatures, the tread will actually crack, and you will have voided any tire warranty available. You *must* get winter tires if you plan on driving the car in below-freezing weather.
 

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If it wasn't made clear, if you have the Performance Model 3 with the upgraded brakes, then you need to order specific wheels. Tsportline has 18" and 19" that will fit the M3P+, but they're backordered into January now I think.

Otherwise, you can get 18" or 19" wheels at Tire Rack, just be sure when you do the "search by vehicle" to indicate Model 3 Performance with Performance Brakes. The downside to the TireRack wheels vs the Tsportline is that you will need a centering ring (which they supply) and different lug nuts (which they also supply). So, minor inconvenience, but really not a big deal.

If you want tires that will be great in deep snow you'll find some threads here about Blizzaks & Nokians and some others... If you just want good performance in cold weather and fair performance in deep snow, then you might consider the Pirelli Sottozero or the Michelin Alpin.

Most people will advise a smaller rim (like, 18") so that the tire has a bigger sidewall to resist damage when hitting potholes etc. Also, you certainly don't want to go wider on winter tires for deep snow performance. I went with the Pirelli Sottozero in the same size as the OEM tire - in this case 235/45 18.
 

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BostonPilot - thanks....took your advice. Ordered 18 inch wheels+tires. Everything you stated was confirmed multiple times - even on different sites