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I just found my window sticker. It's shows options as configured, but it does NOT include Full Autonomous Driving even though I ordered that.

My Tesla account shows that my car has it, so it should be no problem, right?

However, if my car is totalled, will the insurance devalue it as if it didnt have this option? If my gap insurance only pays up to MSRP, does that mean that I won't get paid back door the Autonomous Driving option?
If I trade it in, will it trade in for less?

Perhaps Tesla doesn't include the FAD option as part of the vehicle cost, but I saw an older window sticker with it included.

Is there even anything I can do at this point?
 

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I just found my window sticker. It's shows options as configured, but it does NOT include Full Autonomous Driving even though I ordered that.

My Tesla account shows that my car has it, so it should be no problem, right?

However, if my car is totalled, will the insurance devalue it as if it didnt have this option? If my gap insurance only pays up to MSRP, does that mean that I won't get paid back door the Autonomous Driving option?
If I trade it in, will it trade in for less?

Perhaps Tesla doesn't include the FAD option as part of the vehicle cost, but I saw an older window sticker with it included.

Is there even anything I can do at this point?
The window sticker shouldn’t really matter. What matters is what options/features your car actually has. I’ve never seen a car sale include the transfer of the original window sticker so you should be good to go!
 

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The window sticker shouldn’t really matter. What matters is what options/features your car actually has. I’ve never seen a car sale include the transfer of the original window sticker so you should be good to go!
1. I just traded in my Audi and the dealer pulled the original sticker to confirm the options.

2. My gap insurance pays up to MSRP. So if my car is totalled before I pay down to the MSRP on the sticker then I may be on the hook for the FAD because it's not on the sticker.

Just hypothetical reasons to list the options correctly. I guess one plus is that insurance should be slightly less because the insurance thinks the car is worth less.
 

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1. I just traded in my Audi and the dealer pulled the original sticker to confirm the options.

2. My gap insurance pays up to MSRP. So if my car is totalled before I pay down to the MSRP on the sticker then I may be on the hook for the FAD because it's not on the sticker.

Just hypothetical reasons to list the options correctly. I guess one plus is that insurance should be slightly less because the insurance thinks the car is worth less.
I may have misunderstood — I thought you have and paid for the option but it’s just missing on the window sticker.

If that’s right, running you VIN should reveal all of the details where the window sticker is just misprinted. Back in the very early days of Model 3 some of the window stickers were way off.
 

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Just looked at mine and it doesn't show it either...

Not show why... The sticker does the car price 3k lower.
 

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The window sticker can’t possibly be used for verification. When they are matching a car to you, they only need to match physical specs - color, wheels, AWD, etc. EAP or FSD is a software ‘license’ that they assign, probably at delivery. I’m curious how current auto insurers handle other after-sale type addons. Is it honor system? Notify when you add something so they can increase your rate? Show receipts? Surely there is somebody on this forum in the auto insurance biz that could provide some insight?
 

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I did not see one with mine. Where can I find it? Should I talk to the SC guys?
 

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Cool thanks guys. Will ask my delivery specialist if i don’t find it in the trunk.
 

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I did not receive one (delivered 7/6/18 in Costa Mesa). I used to keep all of mine from previous cars, but never had a practical need for them upon sale or anything else. Is there a reason for wanting/needing one for the Model 3?
 
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The window sticker can’t possibly be used for verification. When they are matching a car to you, they only need to match physical specs - color, wheels, AWD, etc. EAP or FSD is a software ‘license’ that they assign, probably at delivery. I’m curious how current auto insurers handle other after-sale type addons. Is it honor system? Notify when you add something so they can increase your rate? Show receipts? Surely there is somebody on this forum in the auto insurance biz that could provide some insight?
For what it's worth, when I submitted documents for collision to Geico they requested the purchase agreement and that should contain all your features/options.
 

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My Monroney label (window sticker) was placed on the dash at delivery, and not stuck to anything. That alone is much appreciated. Like the OP my FSD option was not listed and the price for it not added to the total. I only saw this when I actually looked at the label about two weeks after delivery and most of my drooling stopped. I asked a question through the Tesla website and haven’t yet received a response on this. FSD is a confirmed option on the website and in the car itself, but I have the same questions as the OP about why not, and possible ramifications.
 

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Wouldn’t if be fair to assume if your car was totaled and the insurance replaced it, Tesla would transfer the prepaid FAD to you new car? After all no one has FAD now and you havent yet “taken delivery” on that feature.
 

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Wouldn’t if be fair to assume if your car was totaled and the insurance replaced it, Tesla would transfer the prepaid FAD to you new car? After all no one has FAD now and you havent yet “taken delivery” on that feature.
No, I seriously doubt it. When your car is totalled, you need a new purchase agreement, new VIN, and new car loan.
When you sell the car, the option goes with the car... Not with you.
However, I think that if insurance uses your purchase agreement when they pay you then it shouldn't matter anyway.
I also don't believe it matters since you can have the option on the window sticker of an S and have it removed before you take take delivery.
Additionally, there are no physical differences or capabilities at this point. Therefore, I am convinced it doesn't matter (with the exception of feeling psychologically swindled).
 

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My car came with the window sticker showing EAP as a $5k option. I didn't order EAP, and it wasn't actually installed on the car when I received it.

No doubt Tesla is upgrading and downgrading software options on already-produced cars to match orders. That's a big deal, because it shows how once again Tesla's ability to do over-the-air software updates allows them greater flexibility than other manufacturers: an already-built Model 3 can be increased in value by $8k with a mouse click, and a likewise a potentially slower-selling vehicle can be made less expensive without actually costing the manufacturer any money!

It's interesting that up to 14% of the car's sale price is software ($57k black LR Model 3 with no options other than EAP+FSD @$8k). With Standard Range cars, that ratio could go up to 22.8%. The amount and value of software going into these "computers on wheels" will change a lot about how we look at cars in the future.

This is also the major flaw in the profit analyses by Munro et al, since they have no way to estimate Tesla's margin on software. They're stuck in the old school world of adding up what door handles and mirrors cost. They should be looking at the Apple/Microsoft models to see how Tesla will profit in the future. Software and related services (car-sharing network, for example) will be the big money spinners soon.
 
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