Will Model 3 have Power Seats?

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How likely is it that Model 3 will have power seats as standard?

Here in the UK power seats are mostly restricted to high-end cars, but they seem much more common on cars in the USA when we've been on holiday there. So does that make power seats "essential" for the home market?

Do you think Tesla can do it for the price?
 

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I would think so. If it is supposed to compete with an Audi A4 and BMW 3 series, I would think the Front seats would be heated, power seats. Then again, my "high end" SL Leaf does not offer power seats and it's sticker price is just over that of the base M3. Yet, it could be part of a premium package that included Leather etc.
 

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I think you can count on that feature. This is not a Bolt competitor despite what the media would make you believe. This is an entry level luxury car like a BMW 3 series.
 

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How likely is it that Model 3 will have power seats as standard?

Here in the UK power seats are mostly restricted to high-end cars, but they seem much more common on cars in the USA when we've been on holiday there. So does that make power seats "essential" for the home market?

Do you think Tesla can do it for the price?
I think you can count on that feature. This is not a Bolt competitor despite what the media would make you believe. This is an entry level luxury car like a BMW 3 series.
I think that this may seem to be a "funny" question...

However, let me point out one of the drawbacks of the BMW i3... A luxury brand's EV for the "masses" that did not include power seats.

That being said, I do believe that Tesla IS better than BMW... But then again, I expected AM radio and power seats in the i3 when it was being developed, and I got none of that, so we turned down the i3 that was allocated to us.
 

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As Fred stated in this article:
GM is making a $37,500 car that would sell for $20,000 if it wasn’t electric, while Tesla is trying to make a $35,000 car that would sell for $35,000 if it wasn’t electric.

The same holds true for the BMW i3. It's a quirky little econobox, not a luxury car. Therefore, they were worried about making the price as low as possible, even though there was no possibility that it could actually compete with other econoboxes on price. I think the bureaucracies in the established car companies have been the cause of these sorts of bad decisions. Tesla is taking the correct approach - determine what price you can make the car for, then make it as competitive as possible with other cars in that price range.
 

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I may be the only one who prefers manual seat adjustments... and mostly because I think it's much faster than electric.
On my Solstice, the front of the door opening is about level with your knee or even a little behind it. So each time I park, I push the seat back before I open the door. The extra 5 or 6 inches makes a huge difference, especially if not wanting to scuff up shoes, and it takes a fraction of a second with a manual lever. Electric controls always seem to take forever to move even a small distance.
With the comments from the reveal about moving the front passengers forward toward the 'nonexistent firewall', I kind of expect the Model 3's foot/knee maneuvering room may be somewhat similar.
 

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I may be the only one who prefers manual seat adjustments... and mostly because I think it's much faster than electric.
On my Solstice, the front of the door opening is about level with your knee or even a little behind it. So each time I park, I push the seat back before I open the door. The extra 5 or 6 inches makes a huge difference, especially if not wanting to scuff up shoes, and it takes a fraction of a second with a manual lever. Electric controls always seem to take forever to move even a small distance.
With the comments from the reveal about moving the front passengers forward toward the 'nonexistent firewall', I kind of expect the Model 3's foot/knee maneuvering room may be somewhat similar.
The benefit of the electric seats is the car can adjust to different driver profiles. ,y wife and I sit and drive differently, so it's nice to have the driver profile to pick when I drive vs. when she drives.

So far Tesla hasn't keyed individual keys to each driver's preferred profile, otherwise that would be great, walk up in my key and it sets up for me, walk up in hers, and it adjusts to her settings. (Not there on the S, Roadster is manual...)

(Off topic, but based on what I've seen of @MelindaV posts, I think you would fit a Roadster much better )
 

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if I found a spare $100k sitting around, I would be so all over that!

MelindaV,

No doubt!!! But then we'd all be driving Model S's as well!!! ;). This is why Teslas probably got a half a million Model 3 pre-orders right now.

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I would think so. If it is supposed to compete with an Audi A4 and BMW 3 series, I would think the Front seats would be heated, power seats. Then again, my "high end" SL Leaf does not offer power seats and it's sticker price is just over that of the base M3. Yet, it could be part of a premium package that included Leather etc.
Speaking of heated, power seats probably being part of a Premium Leather Package. I posed a question in the 'Heat in the Winter' thread on whether or not anyone thinks "heated seats" will be offered in cloth or 'only' in the Premium Leather Upgrade which I for one am probably not interested in. I was commenting on Byorns mention of using just the 'seat heater' in his "Range Mode" video as opposed to cabin heat via the 6Khw heater in the S to help save on range in the winter months. (Not to hijack thread-apologies).

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See, AEDennis totally figured me out. I've never been that interested in the S or X (although the gull wing doors that know how high they can open could convince me) because they are too big. The Model 3 I believe will be about the same overall size as my coupe, and like it's size.
Most the time, I am the only person in my car. Why have seats for a half dozen, when you can instead just bring along your one favorite person (who travels light)? lol
 

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Speaking of heated, power seats probably being part of a Premium Leather Package. I posed a question in the 'Heat in the Winter' thread on weather or not anyone thinks "heated seats" will be offered in cloth or 'only' in the Premium Leather Upgrade which I for one am probably not interested in. I was commenting on Byorns mention of using just the 'seat heater' in his "Range Mode" video as opposed to cabin heat via the 6Khw heater in the S to help save on range in the winter months. (Not to hijack thread-apologies).

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They put the heated in seats in all the versions of the LEAF (back seat too), even with cloth seats to save juice in the winter months. Heated steering wheel too! (Ooooooo, its nice! even in winter in TX). So will it be standard in a M3 with much higher range? You would think so as it is in the S. "Twelve way power adjustable, heated front seats with memory and driver profile"
But with all that they are stuffing in the car, they could not but I think they will for all reasons above and its almost a standard EV thing now. Heck, even the iMiev comes with heated seats in the front standard like the model S.
 

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A great feature we have on my wife's Hyundai Sonata Hybrid is power seats with programmable driver profiles with the option to have the seat automatically go to the full back position when the car is turned off and return to the programed position when you turn it on. Makes getting in and out a breeze.

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A great feature we have on my wife's Hyundai Sonata Hybrid is power seats with programmable driver profiles with the option to have the seat automatically go to the full back position when the car is turned off and return to the programed position when you turn it on. Makes getting in and out a breeze.

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That's a great idea, and again something Tesla could implement in software for existing vehicles.

Power seats really are a luxury item here in the UK, only found on the most expensive cars. We tend to pay more for our cars, and get less for our money, so things like auto gearbox, climate control and sometimes even a decent radio are extras!
 

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A great feature we have on my wife's Hyundai Sonata Hybrid is power seats with programmable driver profiles with the option to have the seat automatically go to the full back position when the car is turned off and return to the programed position when you turn it on. Makes getting in and out a breeze.

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Hyundai/Kia is quite good at taking what are considered "luxury" features and bringing them down to the mass-market much faster than the others. Power folding mirrors are an example of what they did and most others in their price category don't even have that.
 
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See, AEDennis totally figured me out. I've never been that interested in the S or X (although the gull wing doors that know how high they can open could convince me) because they are too big. The Model 3 I believe will be about the same overall size as my coupe, and like it's size.
Most the time, I am the only person in my car. Why have seats for a half dozen, when you can instead just bring along your one favorite person (who travels light)? lol
The model 3 is the same size as a VW Jetta or Audi A4!