Wait... Model 3 OEM 20" wheels????

  • SUPPORT THE SITE AND ENJOY A PREMIUM EXPERIENCE!
    Welcome to Tesla Owners Online, four years young! For a low subscription fee, you will receive access to an ad-free version of TOO. We now offer yearly memberships! You can subscribe via this direct link:
    https://teslaownersonline.com/account/upgrades

    SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL!
    Did you know we have a YouTube channel that's all about Tesla? Lots of Tesla information, fun, vlogs, product reviews, and a weekly Tesla Owners Online Podcast as well!

garsh

Dis Member
Moderator
TOO Supporting Member
Joined
Apr 4, 2016
Messages
11,594
Location
Pittsburgh PA
Tesla Owner
Model 3
Country
Country
#1
Just saw this ebay auction for what are apparently pull-offs from a model 3.
I was reading the description and thought that the guy must be posting incorrect specs. It's a staggered set (20x8.5 and 20x10) of what appear to be the Sport wheels. But the pictures confirm that these really are a staggered set of wheels.

These are finished in the same color as the production sport wheels (not that deep black-backed silver that the alpha car wheel had), but these have to be wheels from an alpha car, right?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/4-NEW-2018...-SILVER-WHEELS-MICHELIN-4S-TIRES/182955108939
 

Michael Russo

MSM Team Founder, Midnight S≡R≡NITY rider
Moderator
TOO Supporting Member
Joined
Oct 15, 2016
Messages
5,804
Location
Pau, France
Tesla Owner
Model S
Country
Country
#2
Just saw this ebay auction for what are apparently pull-offs from a model 3.
I was reading the description and thought that the guy must be posting incorrect specs. It's a staggered set (20x8.5 and 20x10) of what appear to be the Sport wheels. But the pictures confirm that these really are a staggered set of wheels.

These are finished in the same color as the production sport wheels (not that deep black-backed silver that the alpha car wheel had), but these have to be wheels from an alpha car, right?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/4-NEW-2018...-SILVER-WHEELS-MICHELIN-4S-TIRES/182955108939
@Ryan , better than In-&-Out?! :D
 

SoFlaModel3

@Teslatunity
Moderator
TOO Supporting Member
Joined
Apr 15, 2017
Messages
9,863
Location
Florida
Tesla Owner
Model 3
Country
Country
#5
Just saw this ebay auction for what are apparently pull-offs from a model 3.
I was reading the description and thought that the guy must be posting incorrect specs. It's a staggered set (20x8.5 and 20x10) of what appear to be the Sport wheels. But the pictures confirm that these really are a staggered set of wheels.

These are finished in the same color as the production sport wheels (not that deep black-backed silver that the alpha car wheel had), but these have to be wheels from an alpha car, right?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/4-NEW-2018...-SILVER-WHEELS-MICHELIN-4S-TIRES/182955108939
I wonder who had access to sell parts off an alpha car (assuming that’s where they’re from).
 

garsh

Dis Member
Moderator
TOO Supporting Member
Joined
Apr 4, 2016
Messages
11,594
Location
Pittsburgh PA
Tesla Owner
Model 3
Country
Country
#6
Even though it seems weird for an OEM to offer the same style wheel in two different sizes, I guess @Dogwhistle might be right.
Unlike the 20" wheel on the alpha, this set has the valve stem out front.

Sizes & offsets:
20 x 8.5 +35mm offset
20 x 10 +45mm offset
 

Ryan

TOO Alumni
TOO Supporting Member
Joined
Mar 5, 2016
Messages
108
Location
San Francisco, California
Country
Country
#7
This is so weird and I have so many questions. How could an employee sell these without getting fired? Aren't they Tesla property? How did "Williams Tire and Wheel" get them? Are they real (they sure look it!)?

I maintain, per what I've said on the podcast, that these ARE going to get made. Why else would we have seen them on multiple release candidates?

Thanks for alerting me to this thread @Michael Russo !
 

AEDennis

Top-Contributor
Joined
Apr 10, 2016
Messages
922
Location
Southern California, Most of the time...
Tesla Owner
Model 3
Country
Country
#9
This is so weird and I have so many questions. How could an employee sell these without getting fired? Aren't they Tesla property? How did "Williams Tire and Wheel" get them? Are they real (they sure look it!)?...[/USER] !
Tesla does sell their things through 3rd parties... (when they decided to stop providing CPO Roadsters, he started selling those through specialists, in Florida I'd I remember correctly...)

However, Tesla normally wouldn't allow a third party to directly quote the origins so blatantly... so that's interesting...
 

garsh

Dis Member
Moderator
TOO Supporting Member
Joined
Apr 4, 2016
Messages
11,594
Location
Pittsburgh PA
Tesla Owner
Model 3
Country
Country
#10
I maintain, per what I've said on the podcast, that these ARE going to get made. Why else would we have seen them on multiple release candidates?
Where have you seen these on an RC? I thought we've only ever seen the 19's?
 

Watts4me

Well-known member
Joined
Nov 24, 2016
Messages
262
Location
Houston
Tesla Owner
Model 3
Country
Country
#14
Looks like the rear tire is a 275/30/20.
Unlike the seller states it's a 275/35/20.
At least now I know exactly what tires to get with the 20" wheels I'm getting.
 

Mad Hungarian

Resident M3OC Wheel/Tire Guru
Joined
May 20, 2016
Messages
1,026
Location
Montreal, QC
Tesla Owner
Model 3
Country
Country
#15
Well now... this is rather interesting.
Although not as bizarre as you might think. My first reaction was that these are reproductions, which of course we all expected to turn up at some point (or in my case have considered making). However two things make this unlikely:

1. Tesla has patented this design, so making and selling 100% identical copies into the U.S. market is a risky proposition.
2. They have what appear to be correct OEM Tesla markings, right down to the part numbers and fonts used. Easily duplicated if you're copying, but highly unwise.

My best hunch is that they are surplus stock being liquidated through backdoor channels. Seen this before. Now WHY that's happening prior to these being seen as production parts on cars or even listed as upcoming options is anyone's guess. The only two that immediately come my mind are thst Tesla ordered a qty of them for "P" cars in advance of production and:

1. Now due to delays is not taking delivery as scheduled.
2. They cancelled the 20" staggered option in favour of a 19" staggered option as seen in the manual.

In either of which case the vendor has decided to start liquidating.
If some such scenario is true, then we should see a lot more of them turning up. If we don't, then they remain a mystery.
Glad to see my guess on the 10" rear offset was right though :).
 

garsh

Dis Member
Moderator
TOO Supporting Member
Joined
Apr 4, 2016
Messages
11,594
Location
Pittsburgh PA
Tesla Owner
Model 3
Country
Country
#16
2. They cancelled the 20" staggered option in favour of a 19" staggered option as seen in the manual.
I'm leaning towards this explanation. As you said, the fact that the manual mentions a 19" staggered option would seem to imply that a 20" wheel won't be offered.

Thanks for the insight!
 

TrevP

TOO Founder / Administrator
Founder
Joined
Oct 20, 2015
Messages
6,863
Location
Toronto
Tesla Owner
Model 3
Country
Country
#18
This is so weird and I have so many questions. How could an employee sell these without getting fired? Aren't they Tesla property? How did "Williams Tire and Wheel" get them? Are they real (they sure look it!)?

I maintain, per what I've said on the podcast, that these ARE going to get made. Why else would we have seen them on multiple release candidates?

Thanks for alerting me to this thread @Michael Russo !
Buy them Ryan, you know you want to ;)
 

SoFlaModel3

@Teslatunity
Moderator
TOO Supporting Member
Joined
Apr 15, 2017
Messages
9,863
Location
Florida
Tesla Owner
Model 3
Country
Country
#20
Well now... this is rather interesting.
Although not as bizarre as you might think. My first reaction was that these are reproductions, which of course we all expected to turn up at some point (or in my case have considered making). However two things make this unlikely:

1. Tesla has patented this design, so making and selling 100% identical copies into the U.S. market is a risky proposition.
2. They have what appear to be correct OEM Tesla markings, right down to the part numbers and fonts used. Easily duplicated if you're copying, but highly unwise.

My best hunch is that they are surplus stock being liquidated through backdoor channels. Seen this before. Now WHY that's happening prior to these being seen as production parts on cars or even listed as upcoming options is anyone's guess. The only two that immediately come my mind are thst Tesla ordered a qty of them for "P" cars in advance of production and:

1. Now due to delays is not taking delivery as scheduled.
2. They cancelled the 20" staggered option in favour of a 19" staggered option as seen in the manual.

In either of which case the vendor has decided to start liquidating.
If some such scenario is true, then we should see a lot more of them turning up. If we don't, then they remain a mystery.
Glad to see my guess on the 10" rear offset was right though :).
I have to imagine your 2nd thought is right. Even with subtle differences, it hardly makes sense to make essentially identical rims in 2 different sizes for the same car.