Supercharging (Model 3)> Free or Pay?

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Is the new pay per use system fair?

  • Yes

    Votes: 82 81.2%
  • No

    Votes: 1 1.0%
  • I would prefer to have free for life for x$

    Votes: 14 13.9%
  • I won't use Superchargers much

    Votes: 4 4.0%

  • Total voters
    101

dudeman

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Cheaper than gas for sure but in Ontario the tier 2 price is .26 per minute. A 30 minute charge is close to $8 as long as you get full kW from the SC. Usually when they're full you're going to get half that charge rate so twice as long at the same price.

I never expected it to be free but it sure puts our electricity prices into focus.

Toronto to Montreal for about $10 isn't that bad I guess. Cheaper than my Lincoln ;)
Cheaper than your Lincoln but infinitely more expensive than your Model X.

Congratulations on your Model X!!
 

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Looks like the wording has updated on Tesla site.

Model 3 does not receive annual Supercharger credits, and a small fee applies to Supercharge

https://www.tesla.com/support/supercharging
I recall for a very long time now (at least since the delivery event in July, if not longer) that Model 3 was pegged as “pay-per-use” when it comes to supercharging.
 

mbrucem

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Some data from my Fremont, CA to Council Bluffs, IA road trip in my Model 3.

1871 Total miles.

9 Supercharger stops. Hillman Ranch, Kellerman to see it, St. George, Beaver, Green River, Grand Junction, Glenwood Springs (overnight at Residence Inn, but it was Supercharger, not a Destination Charger), Silverthorne, Brush, Ogallala, Lincoln.

1 Destination charge overnight (Marriott in Vegas)

$45.78 in charging fees (started w/ 200 miles range, ended w/ 98 miles range.

Almost 100% highway driving (speed limits 75 - 80 the entire trip, and I went at least the speed limit).
Temperature once out of Colorado: Deadly. Like -10 to -15.
Temperature in car: 75 degrees
EAP & TACC on a lot of the trip.
Radio cranked.
Seat warmers on.

Gas would have cost me $233.88 (assuming 20 mpg and $2.50/gallon).

Rates for Supercharging in CA, CO, UT: $.13 kWh
Rates for Supercharging in NE: Tier 1: $.08/min & Tier 2: $.16/min - not sure what causes Tier 2 as time to get there was very different in my two NE stops.

Highest charge: Green River $8.06

Rides given to people I met at the Superchargers: 7.
New friends & people coming to see the car: Countless
Deer carcus avoided at night with EAP: 1
Photos taken of the car: who knows.

Fun factor (untll Council Bluffs, will share in other posts); HIGH.

This is truly an amazing car!!
 

Mike

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Some data from my Fremont, CA to Council Bluffs, IA road trip in my Model 3.

1871 Total miles.

9 Supercharger stops. Hillman Ranch, Kellerman to see it, St. George, Beaver, Green River, Grand Junction, Glenwood Springs (overnight at Residence Inn, but it was Supercharger, not a Destination Charger), Silverthorne, Brush, Ogallala, Lincoln.

1 Destination charge overnight (Marriott in Vegas)

$45.78 in charging fees (started w/ 200 miles range, ended w/ 98 miles range.

Almost 100% highway driving (speed limits 75 - 80 the entire trip, and I went at least the speed limit).
Temperature once out of Colorado: Deadly. Like -10 to -15.
Temperature in car: 75 degrees
EAP & TACC on a lot of the trip.
Radio cranked.
Seat warmers on.

Gas would have cost me $233.88 (assuming 20 mpg and $2.50/gallon).

Rates for Supercharging in CA, CO, UT: $.13 kWh
Rates for Supercharging in NE: Tier 1: $.08/min & Tier 2: $.16/min - not sure what causes Tier 2 as time to get there was very different in my two NE stops.

Highest charge: Green River $8.06

Rides given to people I met at the Superchargers: 7.
New friends & people coming to see the car: Countless
Deer carcus avoided at night with EAP: 1
Photos taken of the car: who knows.

Fun factor (untll Council Bluffs, will share in other posts); HIGH.

This is truly an amazing car!!
Excellent data. Glad to see some of these types of numbers filtering down to the general audience.

Do you have a total leg time from departure to mid point destination? Thanks
 

mbrucem

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Nice to see some data and some insite on supercharging with the 3. Sounds like you have a great trip.


Only question I've got is are you sure it was $0.13 kWh in CA? I thought it was $0.20 kWh here.
Maybe an elon gift or system error? I just picked up the car, and when I charged there is showed no cost on the screen... maybe it will get updated. Will let you know. In MN now so no way to check it out.
 

mbrucem

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Excellent data. Glad to see some of these types of numbers filtering down to the general audience.

Do you have a total leg time from departure to mid point destination? Thanks
Sorry, I didn't track that. But is someone goes thru my Tweets, they may be able to figure it out. Long days. I stayed long at the Superchargers as the cold (and speed) were having an effect on the range. Model S owners I met at the chargers were getting 440! Much more than usual, and worse than the 3 (i.e. the 3 was more efficient).
 

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Sorry, I didn't track that.
Cheers. No worries, more a target of opportunity question.

You-You says he will be first in line to get (if offered) an aftermarket upgrade for a heated steering wheel because his hands are frozen without pumping the heat up.

What is your opinion, would a heated steering wheel have proven to be a strategic option for your trip (i.e. no need to keep the cabin so warm)? Thanks.
 

mbrucem

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Cheers. No worries, more a target of opportunity question.

You-You says he will be first in line to get (if offered) an aftermarket upgrade for a heated steering wheel because his hands are frozen without pumping the heat up.

What is your opinion, would a heated steering wheel have proven to be a strategic option for your trip (i.e. no need to keep the cabin so warm)? Thanks.
I personally like those and would upgrade as well. Hands weren't cold, but could have gotten started a bit faster with the cabin a bit cooler. Found they retained the heat pretty well from the sun and from my hands, but at night... woah.