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List of known things about the next gen Roadster
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Exterior
(1) The removal glass roof is moulded to support better air flow.
(2) There are some additional aero pieces for air flow underneath where the the axel is for each of the rear tires.
(3) There is a wing on the rear deck for additional downforce at high speeds.
(4) The third brake light appears to be below the deck wing and the same width as the deck wing.
(5) Rear quarter panel window appears to have an air-inlet towards the rear to provide cooling for the additional cells in the raised section of the hatch.
(6) The bottom left (driver side) and bottom right (passenger side) of the "B" pillar has a touch sensor, swipe up gesture locks the Roadster. Swipe down gesture unlocks the Roadster.
(7) Doors unlatch and swing open a few inches after a successful unlock gesture. They are not auto presenting like the Model X.


(8) When the glass roof panel has been removed, the images of the Roadster on the screen show a Roadster without the roof panel.

Interior
(9) Front seats have red release buttons, and not black like the Model S/X.
(10) The accelerator and brake pedals are all black rubber, and not chrome like the Performance Model S/X.
(11) The "Knight Rider" style steering wheels does have carbon fiber on the bottom piece.
(12) Door sills are carbon fiber with the word "ROADSTER" in all caps and italics.
(13) The rear passengers do indeed have a hand rest on the the molded side panel.
(14) The front seatbelts are black even on the white seats
(15) The rear seatbelts are black against the black seats.
(16) Underneath the floating curved front LCD screen, there appears to be two storage areas, one flat on the bottom which may open up, and one on the slight incline with a similar angle to the screen.
(17) There is absolutely no rear seat leg room when the front seats are pushed back all the way.
(18) There are tiny screens in the dash one for the driver (ie, instrument cluster) and one for the passenger (passenger auxiliary screen).
(19) Steering wheel has touch sensitive + and - button on the right side and touch sensitive up and down arrow buttons on the left side. May support a Tap and Tap+Hold gestures
(20) Steering wheel has two paddles, one one each side.
(21) Driver and passenger seats belts have adjustable shoulder strap heights (like the Model X).
(22) Where is the charging port?
(23) Will there be a frunk that is usable?

Rear Seats
(22) Similar to the Ferrari GTC4Lusso, the rear seats are captain chairs with a hand rest in between.
(23) Rear seats have red release buttons, and not black like the Model S/X.
(24) The rear seats look to support LATCH for booster seats.

Rear Hatch
(25) The hatch appears to have a raised section close to the rear seats, possibly where they are storing the addition cells to get to 200 kWh. This is similar to the Ferrari GTC4Lusso hatch.
(26) There's no privacy parcel cover for the rear hatch. Everything is exposed to prying eyes.
(27) There appears to be a ski passthrough in the back seats so you can take your Next Gen Roadster to the ski resorts (will need snow tires which are available in the two sizes). More than likely chains will not be supported on these size rims+tires.
(28) Subwoofer appears to be on the right side of the hatch.

Autopilot
(29) Front facing cameras are just like they are on the Model S/X.
(30) Side repeater have camera but they are below the carbon fiber fin.
(31) "B" pillar cameras are at the top front corner of the "B" pillar.
(32) Rear camera is just above the license place.
(33) No front or rear parking sensors appear on the 1:18 model nor the one being driven around in California.

Wheel + Brakes
(34) Carbon fiber front rims are riding on Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 265/35ZR20 (95Y). Center Disc appears to forged aluminum, while the Barrel and Outter Lip appear as Carbon Fiber.
(35) Carbon fiber rear rims are riding on Micheline Pilot Sport Cup 2 325/30ZR21 (104Y). Center Disc appears to forged Aluminum, while the Barrel and Outter Lip appear as Carbon Fiber.
(36) Center locking caps on all four wheels, which means it has HUGE NUTS.
(37) The rotors are carbon ceramic and cross drilled (not slotted).

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(35) "SpaceX package" consisting of a several cold-gas thrusters around the car as well as behind the license plate has been confirmed by Elon but on Twitter and on the Jay Leno Cybertruck segment. A special COPV (carbon over-wrapped pressure vessel) would be located where the back passenger seats are to contain compressed air that would be piped to the gas thrusters around the car. Elon has confirmed that the thrusters would help with cornering on fast tracks and also allow the car to achieve acceleration not possible by tire traction alone. Numbers in the 1.5s or less 0-60 range have been speculated. Another possible capability hinted by Elon would allow the car to "hover" or "hop" if they could make it safe enough.

 
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List of known things about the next gen Roadster
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Exterior
(1) The removal glass roof is moulded to support better air flow.
(2) There are some additional aero pieces for air flow underneath where the the axel is for each of the rear tires.
(3) There is a wing on the rear deck for additional downforce at high speeds.
(4) The third brake light appears to be below the deck wing and the same width as the deck wing.
(5) Rear quarter panel window appears to have an air-inlet towards the rear to provide cooling for the additional cells in the raised section of the hatch.
(6) The bottom left (driver side) and bottom right (passenger side) of the "B" pillar has a touch sensor, swipe up gesture locks the Roadster. Swipe down gesture unlocks the Roadster.
(7) Doors unlatch and swing open a few inches after a successful unlock gesture. They are not auto presenting like the Model X.
(8) When the glass roof panel has been removed, the images of the Roadster on the screen show a Roadster without the roof panel.

Interior
(9) Front seats have red release buttons, and not black like the Model S/X.
(10) The accelerator and brake pedals are all black rubber, and not chrome like the Performance Model S/X.
(11) The "Knight Rider" style steering wheels does have carbon fiber on the bottom piece.
(12) Door sills are carbon fiber with the word "ROADSTER" in all caps and italics.
(13) The rear passengers do indeed have a hand rest on the the molded side panel.
(14) The front seatbelts are black even on the white seats
(15) The rear seatbelts are black against the black seats.
(16) Underneath the floating curved front LCD screen, there appears to be two storage areas, one flat on the bottom which may open up, and one on the slight incline with a similar angle to the screen.
(17) There is absolutely no rear seat leg room when the front seats are pushed back all the way.
(18) There are tiny screens in the dash one for the driver (ie, instrument cluster) and one for the passenger (passenger auxiliary screen).
(19) Steering wheel has touch sensitive + and - button on the right side and touch sensitive up and down arrow buttons on the left side. May support a Tap and Tap+Hold gestures
(20) Steering wheel has two paddles, one one each side.
(21) Driver and passenger seats belts have adjustable shoulder strap heights (like the Model X).
(22) Where is the charging port?
(23) Will there be a frunk that is usable?

Rear Seats
(22) Similar to the Ferrari GTC4Lusso, the rear seats are captain chairs with a hand rest in between.
(23) Rear seats have red release buttons, and not black like the Model S/X.
(24) The rear seats look to support LATCH for booster seats.

Rear Hatch
(25) The hatch appears to have a raised section close to the rear seats, possibly where they are storing the addition cells to get to 200 kWh. This is similar to the Ferrari GTC4Lusso hatch.
(26) There's no privacy parcel cover for the rear hatch. Everything is exposed to prying eyes.
(27) There appears to be a ski passthrough in the back seats so you can take your Next Gen Roadster to the ski resorts (will need snow tires which are available in the two sizes). More than likely chains will not be supported on these size rims+tires.
(28) Subwoofer appears to be on the right side of the hatch.

Autopilot
(29) Front facing cameras are just like they are on the Model S/X.
(30) Side repeater have camera but they are below the carbon fiber fin.
(31) "B" pillar cameras are at the top front corner of the "B" pillar.
(32) Rear camera is just above the license place.
(33) No front or rear parking sensors appear on the 1:18 model nor the one being driven around in California.

Wheel + Brakes
(34) Carbon fiber front rims are riding on Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 265/35ZR20 (95Y). Center Disc appears to forged aluminum, while the Barrel and Outter Lip appear as Carbon Fiber.
(35) Carbon fiber rear rims are riding on Micheline Pilot Sport Cup 2 325/30ZR21 (104Y). Center Disc appears to forged Aluminum, while the Barrel and Outter Lip appear as Carbon Fiber.
(36) Center locking caps on all four wheels, which means it has HUGE NUTS.
(37) The rotors are carbon ceramic and cross drilled (not slotted).


Wow....cool. Thanks for all of the information.

I'm so excited.

Almost as excited as waiting out in the rain back in 2016 to put a deposit down on my P3D+.
 

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Elon has subtly confirmed that the new Roadster will indeed have the SpaceX package


Further evidence

 
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The Roadster is now officially a 2022 car with Elon giving us an update. Final engineering to be completed this year with a drivable release candidate targeted for late summer. Production to start next year

 

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The Roadster is now officially a 2022 car with Elon giving us an update. Final engineering to be completed this year with a drivable release candidate targeted for late summer. Production to start next year

@garsh what does this do for his timelines? Anything sandbagged besides the Y?
 

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Elon has subtly confirmed that the new Roadster will indeed have the SpaceX package


Further evidence


"Every" roadster will have the spaceX package?

Or will it be the "roadster +" or what?

I find it difficult to believe that there will only be 1 version of the roadster.
 

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A non-refresh might have been the plan 1.5 years ago.
They've been working on a Model S interior refresh since 2018.
 

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They've been working on a Model S interior refresh since 2018.

I believe they may have wanted to change the interior. I'm commenting on the rollout. 1.5 years ago the intent of the rollout might have been small incremental changes like bringing back ventilated seats...changing the door panel ( like China did with the Model 3 already )... changing the console ( like they did on the Model 3 and Y already ). Small incremental changes might have been the plan 1.5 years ago.
Maybe someone didn't want to shut down the entire S&X assembly line 1.5 years ago - without knowing how the Model Y would sell.

Instead of the small incremental rollout plan - they went with the all-in-one refresh plan.

Both plans are cool with me.

Hey wait.. This is the thread about the super duper Roadster. I shouldn't be polluting it with Model S and X stuff. They aren't worthy. We need a roadster rollout plan. lol
 
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"Every" roadster will have the spaceX package?

Or will it be the "roadster +" or what?

I find it difficult to believe that there will only be 1 version of the roadster.

I should clarify: there's a good chance the Founder's series will come with the SpaceX package but the regular Roadster will have the option to buy it for say $50K. Just a guess of course, but *something* has to justify the extra $50K for the Founder's series over the base model...

I believe they may have wanted to change the interior. I'm commenting on the rollout. 1.5 years ago the intent of the rollout might have been small incremental changes like bringing back ventilated seats...changing the door panel ( like China did with the Model 3 already )... changing the console ( like they did on the Model 3 and Y already ). Small incremental changes might have been the plan 1.5 years ago.
Maybe someone didn't want to shut down the entire S&X assembly line 1.5 years ago - without knowing how the Model Y would sell.

Instead of the small incremental rollout plan - they went with the all-in-one refresh plan.

Both plans are cool with me.

Hey wait.. This is the thread about the super duper Roadster. I shouldn't be polluting it with Model S and X stuff. They aren't worthy. We need a roadster rollout plan. lol

Personally I'd like to see the horizontal screen like the S/3/X/Y/CT in the Roadster. The slim vertical screen just feels completely out of place now
 

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Access to the roadster is by a swipe up or down gesture. Does anyone know if there will be another way to open the doors?
 

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Access to the roadster is by a swipe up or down gesture. Does anyone know if there will be another way to open the doors?

We can certainly expect to have a mechanical emergency release from within the car but from outside... who knows yet. I have a feeling the design details have evolved a lot since the reveal.

That's kind of how Tesla works, they like to keep a lot of stuff under wraps and not show anything until they get into customer's hands. While it's frustrating for us who WANT to know more, it helps delight the owner with unexpected touches.
 

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Since it's an insane tech showcase, it will probably open from a keyfob like the X, and from the Tesla app, and maybe the side camera can see you approach and open the door.

It wouldn't take face recognition to do that, just the combination of card/keyfob/phone key plus any human looming over the door.
 

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Roadster is currently undergoing complete redesign. I’m not talking about the body style, the speed or even the fart mode thrusters. I am talking about how it will be the next generation supercar. With the plaid already sub two seconds why spend an extra hundred thousand dollars for a smaller car. It will have automation like never dreamed of. Yes the doors will open automatically, including the Frunk, Although the Frunk will not be use for storage. The main thing it will offer is unbelievable driving experiences, or missions. From just showing off and red carpet mode, to ultimate touring and more track modes that you can count including some of the basics like drag and formula 1. There will also be a multivehicle track mode. imagine demolition derby but the cars will not hit each other no matter what the drivers do. it has become clear to Tesla that sound is not a key ingredient in a supercar, and now speed and acceleration aren’t really key differentiators either. The only way to beat the Ferraris and Lamborghinis, once they’re all fully electric, will be the drive experience and the automated capabilities, Oh and the bad ass stereo. that will be 50K of the vehicle.


Elon electrify Cuba!
 

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Roadster is currently undergoing complete redesign. I’m not talking about the body style, the speed or even the fart mode thrusters. I am talking about how it will be the next generation supercar. With the plaid already sub two seconds why spend an extra hundred thousand dollars for a smaller car. It will have automation like never dreamed of. Yes the doors will open automatically, including the Frunk, Although the Frunk will not be use for storage. The main thing it will offer is unbelievable driving experiences, or missions. From just showing off and red carpet mode, to ultimate touring and more track modes that you can count including some of the basics like drag and formula 1. There will also be a multivehicle track mode. imagine demolition derby but the cars will not hit each other no matter what the drivers do. it has become clear to Tesla that sound is not a key ingredient in a supercar, and now speed and acceleration aren’t really key differentiators either. The only way to beat the Ferraris and Lamborghinis, once they’re all fully electric, will be the drive experience and the automated capabilities, Oh and the bad ass stereo. that will be 50K of the vehicle.


Elon electrify Cuba!

Where did you find all of this information?
 
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I just made it up. But I hope you don’t believe they’re going to wait till next year and release a car that can only go straight fast. To revolutionize the supercar world when it is very clear that the custom manufacturers can release vehicles much quicker than a production company. Elon said that this week. They are not taking all this time to create the Corvette. They are adding more cameras and sensors than horsepower. And of course you got to have a damn good stereo to overcome that air compressor

Alright one more secret. Speaking of the automated doors, the roadster will be the first supercar with easy egress for both fat guys, and women and dresses. Now that is a super car. The cockpit will be the first supercar design not only for the track, but for a couple. Sports cars habe always been used to attract women, the roadster assumes that you’ve already accomplished that and you need a comfortable place for your partner to ride along with you. It will not be built for the lonely guy. Hovering might be more useful for exiting the car in a short dress than for escape velocity mode. Camp/date mode with disappearing console in a roadster? New use for frunk. The heated/cooled console will be available in the frunk for picnic mode, The hundred mile per hour club, the new mile high. And you don’t have to be concerned about privacy all roadsters will come standard with programmable one directional glass. The goal is that all lighting/Hues, sound, air and comfort will all be managed. If you think sex or needlepoint for that matter at 100 miles an hour it’s crazy do you really believe in FSD? The only issue with the new roadster will be people like Trevor will need to figure out how to keep both of them. With the synchronization mode and to be able to have your wife’s roadster follow behind or be a lead sentry, will make it so that one roadster will not be enough. Due to the unprecedented safety that will be embedded in the 2022 roadster, tesla will be the first company to successfully get a speed limit exemption. Yes that will make Ferrari owners cry.

With the tremendous horsepower and range that can be generated by electric motors in a super car, drag coefficient is not the key design variable that it used to be. That’s why the largest SpaceX rockets are shaped like a brick And not a needle

It’s like believing they haven’t released the semi because of a battery shortage. Tesla is acting like a jeweler, they want you to believe that the diamond is an investment and there is a massive shortage of this rare stone. Believe me they’ll be plenty of diamonds 20 years from now, pink yellow or whatever color you want. I heard of this battery shortage years ago since then they pumped out a whole bunch of model threes, openEd the factory in China and every vehicle has shipped with batteries Due to the weightrange issue with the semi and really the need to put batteries in the trailer which changes everything about shipping the panel van with daily local charging makes so much more sense. They are only waiting till they get the automation right so when it enters the market they will dominate it. Their finances are such that they don’t half to enter the market earlier than they want to. A failure on any test the product could be devastating at this point.
 
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For $250000 the roadster should come with all the bells and whistles but how many roadster owners will use the self-driving mode? A self-driving high performance sports car seems like an oxymoron.
 
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