Model 3 price speculation for France

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With yesterday message from Tesla to discover model 3 in France starting today, I wanted to have an updated estimate of the price for it.
Here is the guestimates and detailed calculation below
RWD - mid range 50 010 – 50 819 €
AWD - long range 58 631 – 59 371 €
Model 3 Performance 68 030 – 69 966 €

Warning: that is a pure “mathematical model” looking at how the model S and model X price translates from US$ to Euros. It does not take into account competitive pricing (like Audi A4, Mercedes Class C, BMW 3 Series, Lexus, …) and how that is uniquely positioned on the French market.
It is based on the “conversion factor” to translate US$ to Euros price. Funny enough, it looks pretty consistent for both model S and Model X.
Here it is (price extracted from Tesla website for USA and France from November 14, 2018)

Model S FR US S-Factor
75D 84 800 78 000 1,09
100D 106 200 96 000 1,11
P100D 143 500 135 000 1,06

Model X FR US X-Factor
75D 92 800 84 000 1,10
100D 110 900 99 000 1,12
P100D 153 050 140 000 1,09

So applying these 2 factors (S and X) gives a range of prices for Model 3. I know there is a first limitation of the model right there (assuming a factor can be applied) knowing that there are some unique fixed costs for France registration and some variable currency/tax cost.
Anyway, here are the ranges it gives (All prices in blue are guestimated applying S or X factor). if you want to play with the model, Spreadsheet attached.
Model 3 FR US S-Factor
RWD - mid range 50 010 46 000
AWD - long range 58 631 53 000
Performance 68 030 64 000
Model 3 FR US X-Factor
RWD - mid range 50 819 46 000
AWD - long range 59 371 53 000
Performance 69 966 64 000

Finally, if I am not mistaken, prices of options (at least color and EAP) are identical in the US between model S, X and 3 (All price in green are just applying the model S and X option price ‘as-is’)
Couleur
noir FR US
gris 1600 1500
bleu 1600 1500
Blanc 2100 2000
Rouge 2600 2500

EAP FR US
5300 5000

Has anyone looked at the ‘ICE’ competitive pricing in the US and France and compared the equivalent model for Audi, BMW, Mercedes, Lexus, … ?
 

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Your pricing using existing Model S pricing is the correct way to go about it.

I came up with Canadian pricing for Model 3 before it was officially announced and I was off by $100
 

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I was going on about this in another thread with bobjouy, and discovered the price for Base Model S in France without incentives and without tax is 75'800€, whereas in Germany, without Tax, without Incentives it is ~60k€.
Any idea where the heck this big difference of 15k€ for the exact same thing is coming from? Does france have very high import duty or something that makes this big of a difference?
 

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You sure you have the "confort package" checked in the german config? Because in France it's mandatory.
 

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You sure you have the "confort package" checked in the german config? Because in France it's mandatory.
Yes.
On the "Details" thingy it says:

Model S 75D: 69019€
Solid Black Paint: Included
Dual Motor: Included
Premium Upgrade Package: Included
19" Tires: Included
Premium, All Black: Included
Wood decor: Included
Destination/Doc Fee: 980€
 

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Ah wait... comfort, not PUP? (I was thinking PUP)
That's mandatory in France? ok.... then that's it. :) Thanks
Michel, Tesla are offering the "base" Model S in Germany without Navigation, memory seats and some other stuff - to be able to drop the price below the local "tax credit" threshold. That's the German comfort package, which was also critiziced a lot.

Comparing S/X prices with Germany and France, I think ours are a quite a bit more attractive in Switzerland...
 
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Short article about price in Norway => Sweden http://www.elbilen.org/uppgifter-ti...-vPsyxxCmvqg_mlu1krJSCdhoKgmMIXXFoMbFbQvLMwbI

550 000 NOK = 56 400 € pour une M3 75D sans option (attention, les voitures électriques ne sont pas taxées en Norvège, donc prix bcp plus bas en apparence)

En revanche, après correction taxes Suede etc.... ça ferait 735 000 SEK soit..... 71 100 €.....

Taxes en suède : 25%
 
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Configurator open for France today... here is what is visible (including some screen shots). No place I could find where to mention referral code ... TM3-FR-0.jpeg TM3-FR-1.jpeg TM3-FR-2.jpeg TM3-FR-3.jpeg TM3-FR-4.jpeg
Model 3 FR
AWD
- long range 59 500 € (without -6 000 for Eco Bonus)
WLTP : 544km | 233km/h | 4.8s 0-100 km/h

Performance 70 300 € (without -6 000 for Eco Bonus)
WLTP : 530km | 250km/h | 3.7s 0-100 km/h

prices of options
Couleur
noir FR
gris 1600
bleu 1600
Blanc 2100
Rouge 2600

White interior: 1050€

EAP FR
5300 €

If order now, delivery in February/March.
For reference, a quick configuration for BMW 3 series in France with similar configuration, but not identical ...as equipment / packs / capabilities / performance do not compare :)
 

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Configurator open for France today... here is what is visible (including some screen shots). No place I could find where to mention referral code ...
There is no field for entering a referral code.

You have to click a referral link before configuring. Use the instructions I posted below to find a referral link.
But also note, it's looking like Tesla is not allowing referrals for Model 3s in Europe right now - just S and X. :(

Yes, that will give you six months of free supercharging.

To get a referral code from a member on this forum:
  • click on the member's avatar - it brings up a popup
  • click the member's name in the popup - it takes you to their profile page.
  • click the "About" tab.
  • You'll see a "My Tesla Referral code" entry in the profile (if they set a referral code in their profile). Click that.

That would be unfortunate. So maybe Tesla isn't allowing referrals for these initial European Model 3 orders?
Can somebody in Europe click a referral link and post a screenshot of what you see?
In the states, I see this:

View attachment 18677
 

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There is no field for entering a referral code.

You have to click a referral link before configuring. Use the instructions I posted below to find a referral link.
But also note, it's looking like Tesla is not allowing referrals for Model 3s in Europe right now - just S and X. :(
and for someone that already paid a deposit 2+ years ago, the referral code links don't account for their existing reservation - so even if it were an option, the code would need to manually be entered by a Tesla employee I do believe.
 
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and for someone that already paid a deposit 2+ years ago, the referral code links don't account for their existing reservation - so even if it were an option, the code would need to manually be entered by a Tesla employee I do believe.
alright ... let's see if anyone is able to get free supercharging added by a Tesla sales rep for any order in Europe ...
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