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I was using a Go Pro Hero 7 however in my most recent video I switched over to a Hero 10 recording in 5k @ 60 fps.

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Video #16 - Tesla - FSD Beta 10.3.1 - Home to Target Center



This video contains footage recorded on the evening of November 1st, 2021 of FSD Beta 10.3.1 driving me from my home (NE Minneapolis) to Target Center (Downtown Minneapolis). Although this drive is a short one it highlights where FSD Beta 10.3.x currently excels and struggles. Nighttime driving as well as overall handling of unmarked roads continues to be a pain point for FSD Beta 10.3.x. On top of this, I continue to notice more sudden / phantom braking episodes with this current build than I'd like to see. It's not all bad news though as FSD Beta is definitely more assertive (thanks to the newly added FSD profiles) and the car attempts maneuvers that it would never have attempted with version 10.2. As always if you like seeing how FSD Beta handles our lovely Twin Cities streets, please like & subscribe.
 

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Video #17 - Tesla - FSD Beta 10.3.1 - Lincoln Street NE Obstacle Course Part II



This video contains footage recorded on the evening of November 1st, 2021 of FSD Beta 10.3.1 driving me through what I call the Lincoln Street NE Obstacle Course (NE Minneapolis). To provide some background, road crews setup this obstacle course as a way to keep traffic from speeding down what is normally a quiet residential street while a section of Johnson Street NE was renovated. I previously went through the obstacle course with FSD Beta 10.2 (see here) and so I wanted to see how FSD Beta 10.3.x would react and if there were any changes, positive or negative. One difference between this video and the previous one is that I enter the obstacle course from different ends however based on my testing that does not make a difference. As always if you like seeing how FSD Beta handles our lovely Twin Cities streets, please like & subscribe.
 

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Video #18 - Tesla - FSD Beta 10.3.1 - Driving Around Downtown Minneapolis



This video contains footage recorded on the evening of November 1st, 2021 of FSD Beta 10.3.1 driving me around random parts of Downtown Minneapolis while I waited to pickup my wife. As you will notice in the video, there are a few spots where FSD Beta really struggles and so I'll be making sure to note these and return once future builds are released.
 

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Video #19 - Tesla - FSD Beta 10.3.1 - Home to Timberwolf CrossFit (No Highway)



This video contains footage recorded on the afternoon of November 2nd, 2021 of FSD Beta 10.3.1 driving me from my home (NE Minneapolis) to Timberwolf CrossFit (St. Paul, MN), all on city streets (no highways this time). Much like my previous videos, this video serves as an accurate depiction of the current state of FSD Beta when it comes to how it handles city streets. One thing I would like to note is that at around 15:35 my Go Pro overheated however I was able to quickly recover and so only a few seconds of video was lost. This will be my last video for FSD Beta 10.3.1 as 10.4 is now rolling out and I should have some comparison videos posted later this week. As always if you like seeing how FSD Beta handles our lovely Twin Cities streets, please like & subscribe.
 

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Video #20 - Tesla - FSD Beta 10.4 - Home to Parents’ House



This video contains footage recorded on November 8th, 2021 of Autopilot + FSD Beta 10.4 driving me from my home (NE Minneapolis) to my parents’ house (Coon Rapids, MN). I most recently drove this route on 2021-10-28 and wanted to see if I noticed any changes between FSD Beta 10.3.1 and 10.4. As there are plenty of straight stretches along this route, I have fast forwarded through them to highlight the turns and places where I added commentary.
 

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Video #21 - Tesla - FSD Beta 10.4 - Parents’ House to Timberwolf CrossFit



This video contains footage recorded on November 8th, 2021 of Autopilot + FSD Beta 10.4 driving me from my parents’ house (Coon Rapids, MN) to Timberwolf CrossFit (St. Paul, MN). With this being my second longer drive with FSD Beta 10.4, I have some initial feedback that I'd like to share:

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  • Confidence while turning - The car appears to be more confident in FSD Beta 10.4 and makes less jerky wheel movements once the car is in a turn.
  • Braking Inputs - The braking inputs are SO MUCH smoother with FSD Beta 10.4 (especially when compared to version 10.3), so good that it almost feels human like. You can tell the car is using more regen and less brakes when slowing and all of the inputs have been made to be more gradual. Nice work Tesla team!
  • Assertiveness - As I use the 'Assertive' FSD Profile, I noticed the car is now more wiling to pass turning cars at intersections. Overall this is a nice improvement however when coupled with old map data it can cause confusion with routing.
  • Less timid with empty 4-way stops - When approaching empty 4-way stops, the car is more confident and more quickly proceeds in FSD Beta 10.4 as opposed to the previous behavior which consisted of creeping very slowly with constant brake inputs.
Needs Work
  • Handling of short turn lanes - As was the case with FSD Beta 10.2 & 10.3, the car still fails to use shorter turn lanes confusing drivers around us.
  • Appropriately using driving space - When making turns, the car does not do a great job of aligning itself to the left or the right (curbing or painted lines) which confuses & impedes surrounding traffic.
  • Sweeping turns - When turning left at a busy intersection, the car should refrain from using sweeping lines when turning and instead take a more point & shoot approach much like a human driver would.
  • Creep behavior when making turns (left or right) - The car is still too timid when making a left or right turn which results in either the car inching out to the point where it obstructs traffic or takes longer than it needs to and impedes traffic from behind.
  • Out of date maps - Because the car is relying on map data from almost a year ago, numerous odd routing issues crop up that could easily be avoided with updated maps. Tesla - If you are listening, please update the maps!
 
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Video #21 - Tesla - FSD Beta 10.4 - Parents’ House to Timberwolf CrossFit



This video contains footage recorded on November 8th, 2021 of Autopilot + FSD Beta 10.4 driving me from my parents’ house (Coon Rapids, MN) to Timberwolf CrossFit (St. Paul, MN). With this being my second longer drive with FSD Beta 10.4, I have some initial feedback that I'd like to share:

Good
  • Confidence while turning - The car appears to be more confident in FSD Beta 10.4 and makes less jerky wheel movements once the car is in a turn.
  • Braking Inputs - The braking inputs are SO MUCH smoother with FSD Beta 10.4 (especially when compared to version 10.3), so good that it almost feels human like. You can tell the car is using more regen and less brakes when slowing and all of the inputs have been made to be more gradual. Nice work Tesla team!
  • Assertiveness - As I use the 'Assertive' FSD Profile, I noticed the car is now more wiling to pass turning cars at intersections. Overall this is a nice improvement however when coupled with old map data it can cause confusion with routing.
  • Less timid with empty 4-way stops - When approaching empty 4-way stops, the car is more confident and more quickly proceeds in FSD Beta 10.4 as opposed to the previous behavior which consisted of creeping very slowly with constant brake inputs.
Needs Work
  • Handling of short turn lanes - As was the case with FSD Beta 10.2 & 10.3, the car still fails to use shorter turn lanes confusing drivers around us.
  • Appropriately using driving space - When making turns, the car does not do a great job of aligning itself to the left or the right (curbing or painted lines) which confuses & impedes surrounding traffic.
  • Sweeping turns - When turning left at a busy intersection, the car should refrain from using sweeping lines when turning and instead take a more point & shoot approach much like a human driver would.
  • Creep behavior when making turns (left or right) - The car is still too timid when making a left or right turn which results in either the car inching out to the point where it obstructs traffic or takes longer than it needs to and impedes traffic from behind.
  • Out of date maps - Because the car is relying on map data from almost a year ago, numerous odd routing issues crop up that could easily be avoided with updated maps. Tesla - If you are listening, please update the maps!
Great summary and mostly consistent with what I'm experiencing with 10.4. Yes, Tesla, please update the maps.
 
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Video #22 - Tesla - FSD Beta 10.4 - Home to Work



This video contains footage recorded on November 9th, 2021 of Autopilot + FSD Beta 10.4 driving me from my home (NE Minneapolis) to my company’s office (Edina, MN). I previously recorded this drive in an earlier video with FSD 10.2 and so you'll notice some improvements along with some issues that remain.
 
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Video #23 - Tesla - FSD Beta 10.4 - Rosedale Mall to Home



This video contains footage recorded on the evening November 11th, 2021 of Autopilot + FSD Beta 10.4 driving me from Rosedale Mall (Roseville, MN) to my home (NE Minneapolis). Even though this is a fairly short drive, it highlights some of the scenarios that FSD Beta 10.4 currently struggles with.
 

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Video #24 - Tesla - FSD Beta 10.4 - Barbershop to Home



This video contains footage recorded on the afternoon of November 16th, 2021 of Autopilot + FSD Beta 10.4 driving me from The Familia Barbershop (South Minneapolis) to my home (NE Minneapolis). Along the way you will notice several common scenarios that you would expect to encounter in any similarly-sized US city. Last but not least, if you live in the Twin Cities and looking for a good barber I highly recommend Hugo at The Familia (https://hugothebarber.setmore.com).
 

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Video #25 - Tesla - FSD Beta 10.4 - Home to Columbia Heights



This video contains footage recorded on the afternoon of November 16th, 2021 of Autopilot + FSD Beta 10.4 driving me from my home (NE Minneapolis) to Columbia Heights and back. Even though this is a fairly short video, it does a decent job of highlighting some scenarios that currently cause FSD Beta 10.4 trouble including early braking when approaching intersections (that we will be turning at).
 

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Video #26 - Tesla - FSD Beta 10.4 - Home to Timberwolf CrossFit (No Highway)



This video contains footage recorded on the afternoon of November 16th, 2021 of FSD Beta 10.3.1 driving me from my home (NE Minneapolis) to Timberwolf CrossFit (St. Paul, MN), all on city streets (no highways). Along the way I noticed several improvements with FSD Beta 10.4 compared to when I did a similar drive with FSD Beta 10.3.1. With FSD Beta 10.5 starting to roll out this will be my last 10.4 video. As always if you like seeing how FSD Beta handles our lovely Twin Cities streets, please like & subscribe.
 

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Video #27 - Tesla - FSD Beta 10.5 - Home to McDonalds



This video contains footage recorded on the morning of November 23rd, 2021 of FSD Beta 10.5 driving me from my home (NE Minneapolis) to McDonalds (Columbia Heights) and back. Even though this is a fairly short video, I wanted to share my initial impression of FSD Beta 10.5 and if I noticed any immediate changes in vehicle behavior.
 

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Video #28 - Tesla - FSD Beta 10.5 - NE Minneapolis Test Loop (Night)



This video contains footage recorded on the evening of November 23rd, 2021 of FSD Beta 10.5 driving me around a test loop that I came up with in Northeast Minneapolis. After many drives with FSD I have noticed several spots where it has continued to struggle so I have since compiled these locations into a single, repeatable drive. I will be doing this drive after each release with the goal of testing for improvements as well as regressions (daytime & nighttime). My initial impression w/ FSD Beta 10.5 so far:
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    • Improved Turning Confidence - The car is noticeably more confident when turning either left or right than it previously was in FSD Beta 10.4. On this drive I experienced several turns that eerily human-like in line selection, throttle application, and just overall confidence.
    • Braking Inputs - The braking inputs continue to get better and from what I can tell Tesla has made another step here with 10.5.
    • Detection of Pedestrians - The car does a great job at spotting hidden pedestrians and reacting in a properly cautious manner.
  • Needs Work
    • Handling of yellow light when in middle of intersection - Tesla still needs to work on how the car handles scenarios when it is in the middle of an intersection with a yellow light (solid, not flashing) where the light changes to red.
    • Creep behavior when making turns (left or right) - The car still doesn't smoothly roll into the intersection when waiting to turn left or right. Instead I noticed the car will repeatedly go from throttle to brake making for a very jarring experience. I hope Tesla focuses on this one as it puts you at risk for getting rear ended.
    • Planner not using short turn lanes - As was the case with FSD Beta 10.2 - 10.4, the car still fails to use shorter turn lanes confusing surrounding drivers.
    • Sweeping turns - When turning left at a busy intersection, the car should refrain from attempting sweeping lines when turning and instead take a more point & shoot approach. Aligning itself to either the painted inside line or the curb would help make the car's intent more predictable.
    • Unmarked Roads - The car still likes to position itself in the center of larger unmarked roads even with oncoming traffic. If cars are not parked on the shoulder of the direction we are traveling the car should bias itself more towards the curb vs dead center in the entire road.
    • Unnecessary Braking For Vehicles Turning Right Ahead - When a vehicle up ahead is turning right FSD will unnecessarily brake for them even though they are for sure turning and out of our driving path. I'd like to see the car on Assertive maintain our speed and go around the turning car in the event of them going slower to make their turn.
    • Auto High Beam Usage - Needs attention as the car likes to flash other drivers & pedestrians especially in well lit urban environments.
    • Some 4-way Stops Still A Problem - At several 3-way or 4-way stops near me the car will always overly hesitate even when there are no cars present (and visibility is clear).
    • Out of date maps - Need I say more at this point?