New to Teslas, I put a deposit on Model 3 and have been reading like crazy ever since. Question to how the car "warms" up in the winter compared to a gasoline? Living in Michigan I am pretty interested on how the car will operate in the cold.
The best part of the Tesla is that heat comes from a heating element and not having to wait for a cold engine to warm up. You get instant heat. However it's best if the car has been sitting overnight and the battery is cold soaked, to precondition the car. Basically it means leave it plugged in but with your remote app on your phone, turn on the interior heat. The car will heat the interior and also the battery at the same time pulling from shore power. This ensures you don't waste energy heating the car and battery from just battery power.
I'm more interested in how in how the A/C will function in the 100F+ temps we get here in AZ...New to Teslas, I put a deposit on Model 3 and have been reading like crazy ever since. Question to how the car "warms" up in the winter compared to a gasoline? Living in Michigan I am pretty interested on how the car will operate in the cold.
The heater can draw a lot of power so generally you leave it in range mode (which is lower power). Preheating saves you from getting into a cold car and I use it all the time in the winter. Only on VERY cold days do you need to turn on the higher power heat option but you then need to watch range.
I saw a video by Byorn, where he did several tests with no preheating and range mode off, no preheating and range mode on, then with preheating and at last recharging the car before the trip, which heats the battery at the same time.
In the first case he got 40% range loss, then 30% range loss, then 20% range loss. So precharging right before the trip wins.
To clarify, this range loss is large, but temporary. Range returns when the temperature rises again.If you leave a car outside in temperature extremes to "cold soak" the battery you get range loss.
Yes, this is exactly why I mention in my videos that Lithium cells need to be thermally managed. They like to operate ideally at 28° centigrade. Low temps affect the chemistry a lot. If you leave a car outside in temperature extremes to "cold soak" the battery you get range loss. It's exacerbated by not plugging in the car because the battery will use energy from itself to run the heat pumps. So the moral here is "leave the car plugged into shore power" whenever possible.
Can't speak as an "S" owner...not even close!
But, I can speak as a Volt owner for the last 4 years. Heated seats make all the difference. Running them on cold winter mornings takes the edge off and results in very little range loss. Running the cabin heater drains the range significantly (15-20% in some cases). Another thing I have found to make a huge difference in my comfort is a heated steering wheel. I don't have it on my Volt but we do have it on my wife's Hyundai. If my hands and my butt are warm I am comfortable with no need for cabin heat.
I will definitely be getting the winter package on my Model 3 even though I live in Georgia. On winter mornings when it is down in the 20s it will make my commute a much more enjoyable experience. Also, don't forget that you can preheat your car before you unplug in the mornings. This makes a big difference too.