Can't remember if I passed this on already or not, but a tech told me that in some rare cases the firmware may have an issue during the retrofit, and at least in my area (which is kind of the factory) the mobile techs don't have the equipment necessary to reset a car with bricked firmware. So they are being cautious right now to avoid having to tow any cars to a service center when the retrofit runs into that issue.
They still want to find a way to do these efficiently and not clog up service centers.
You can hypothesize along with me that they probably will:
Was told a similar thing by my service center that they installed a few 3.0 and there were issues with v10 software so they stopped installing them until software issues get resolved.
If any software update requires hw3 to use the features Tesla is going to have some serious work to do to stay out of legal trouble for all of us who paid in full for FSD and cannot use these features on the existing hardware we have. Seems like this is the first time this has happened and will likely open up much discussion on the topic
WHAT? If you paid for FSD you are going to get HW3 so how are they opening up to legal issues? Announcements were made months ago that HW3 upgrades wouldn't start until there was a need to do so. If anything you should be happy to see this as it means we are getting to the point where these updates should start happening. Need References: See Elon's twitter feed and I believe it is also in some old Teslarati articles.
As far as I am concerned, this is good news. Must mean they are confident about starting the HW3 upgrades for those who have purchased FSD. Also, this is the first step in the separation of HW3 functionality vs 2.5 and below.
I agree. Features coming out requiring HW3 put impetus behind them getting us upgraded. Reality being what it is, a lot of us are going to be drooling with envy while new features come out and we wait for our upgrade, and knowing Tesla’s ability to screw up the sort of logistics it would take to get folks upgraded, it’s going to be a bumpy ride while they do the upgrade rollout, but in the end we will all be enjoying the new capabilities.
Now that there are software features released that are not available on hw2 5 cars, how does this affect the retrofit roll out?
If we paid for fsd we're promised by tweet that we're getting hw3. Now that we need hw3 to use the latest improvements, how loudly are the early adopters going to voice their distaste with paying the most and again being last to the party
I think folks that are thinking there is potential lawsuit about HW3 have never actually had to deal with lawsuits and trials and all of the ‘fun’ that goes with the law. In the current state, there is nothing to sue over, just be patient. Not to say you couldn’t find a Lionel Hutz willing to file a class action just to get some clicks, but it wouldn’t go any farther than that.
My 16-month-old Model 3 is on v32.12.2. I have hardware 2.5. I have no cones. I’m devastated. I’ve considered suing, but decided a Sunday morning Bloody Mary will be far more satisfying. YMMV.
I'll be going in for some bodywork on the 22nd (Latham NY SC), and I'll ask if they can do the HW3 upgrade. It'll be interesting to see what they say. This is my first trip to a service center since delivery over a year ago. I didn't get my Dual Motor emblem either, but I really don't want it now.
Tesla recognized $30M in profit from the deferred FSD money in the 3rd Qtr for sumwhat delivering Smart Summon. It seems like upgrading the computers will not help them use that banked money so I don't think they will be upgrading any computers until they can use that FSD deferred money. I don't think it has anything to do with CPUs available, service center availability or optimizing the changeout procedure.
I predict most of us with FSD and HW 2.5 are upgraded by Summer of next year. Will probably be all S/X owners first, then 3s in order of purchase date.
I'm ok with that. The features out right now that require HW3 are not very appealing yet.
The version 2.5 HW cannot render traffic cones. It is clear we are now, officially left behind the 3.0 folks. Waiting on an HW upgrade. Hopefully it will be before next summer.
remember also, the HW3 board currently is part of the tariff trade war going on. it would be smart for Tesla to wait and see how any US/China policies may impact this over the next couple months.
if waiting a few extra months means my $TSLA stock, and the overall company well-being benefits, I am ok with that.
Lol
I contacr support to request an upgrade and here is what they said:
Thank you for reaching out to Tesla support. I am happy to provide some clarification on this matter. All who purchased Full Self-Driving software for a vehicle which does not already have the Full Self-Driving Computer will receive this hardware upgrade at no charge. There is no need to request a service appointment for the Full Self-Driving Computer at this time. Tesla plans to notify each owner who is eligible for this hardware upgrade when we are ready to complete the installation. Thank you for the continued patience and support.
Please let us know if you have any other questions or concerns. Thank you for being a part of the Tesla community!
Fyi... Looks like tesla has started the upgrades. I just scheduled one with my mobile app. Just got a call from the service center. I scheduled for mobile service and was told i need to bring the car in to the service center. My appt is confirmed and i excited.
this has been Tesla's standard response to this question since prior to the Model 3. (even to those who did a 2 year lease and included FSD on a lease that ended prior to FSD rolling out).
So I tried to schedule it in the app with mobile service and this is the response I got a couple hours earlier and my appointment cancelled.
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