FEYNLAB & Tesla - A Match Made in Heaven

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Hello Tesla Model 3 owners and fans. We are extremely excited to be a sponsoring vendor on this forum and look forward to getting to know you all over the coming years as more and more Model 3's are coming off the production line and into your driveways.

As many of you have read or experienced for yourselves at this point, new cars (Teslas included) are extremely susceptible to UV degradation, fading, oxidation, bird droppings, acid rain & water spots, and other environmental fallout. This can ruin your new car look within it's first year (even faster if you live by the ocean). Ceramic Nano-Technology provides a great answer to these problems and FEYNLAB (pronounced "fine lab") is at the forefront of this relatively new space.

Whether you are a DIYer that enjoys working on their car every weekend or someone who is too busy to even remember what color their car is, we have a solution for you. From our prosumer line of products like Textile, Leather Treatment & Ceramic Lite to our professionally installed Self-Heal Plus ceramic coating, we have an answer to protect every surface for years to come, making maintenance an absolute breeze and keeping your new car looking....well...NEW.

Like Tesla, at FEYNLAB, we view ourselves as the innovators of our industry. We have been creating ceramic nano coatings for automobiles, boats and planes for over 10 years and are the inventor and manufacturer of the world's first self-healing ceramic coating. All of our products are made in the USA in Lombard, Illinois, just outside of Chicago. If you're ever in the area, please give us a call and swing by and meet the team and take our mad scientist out for a quick launch in your Tesla. He doesn't get to leave the factory much so I'm sure he would appreciate the ride. He'll probably teach you a thing or 2 about our technology while you're there.


Check out our website, browse our product catalogue and click Contact Us to get a free quote from one of our certified installers near you, now available in over 30 countries. Many of our installers are also certified in paint protection film (clear bra) and window tint, so you may find yourself only needing to call 1 place. Let them know you are a part of the Model 3 forum and post up your new car after you get it treated.

We are here to help and are happy to answer any car care questions you might have. So tag us in your posts with questions and we will be happy to assist if we can.

All the Best,
The FEYNLAB Team
 
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Hello Tesla Model 3 owners and fans. We are extremely excited to be a sponsoring vendor on this forum and look forward to getting to know you all over the coming years as more and more Model 3's are coming off the production line and into your driveways.

As many of you have read or experienced for yourselves at this point, new cars (Teslas included) are extremely susceptible to UV degradation, fading, oxidation, bird droppings, acid rain & water spots, and other environmental fallout. This can ruin your new car look within it's first year (even faster if you live by the ocean). Ceramic Nano-Technology provides a great answer to these problems and FEYNLAB (pronounced "fine lab") is at the forefront of this relatively new space.

Whether you are a DIYer that enjoys working on their car every weekend or someone who is too busy to even remember what color their car is, we have a solution for you. From our prosumer line of products like Textile, Leather Treatment & Ceramic Lite to our professionally installed Self-Heal Plus ceramic coating, we have an answer to protect every surface for years to come, making maintenance an absolute breeze and keeping your new car looking....well...NEW.

Like Tesla, at FEYNLAB, we view ourselves as the innovators of our industry. We have been creating ceramic nano coatings for automobiles, boats and planes for over 10 years and are the inventor and manufacturer of the world's first self-healing ceramic coating. All of our products are made in the USA in Lombard, Illinois, just outside of Chicago. If you're ever in the area, please give us a call and swing by and meet the team and take our mad scientist out for a quick launch in your Tesla. He doesn't get to leave the factory much so I'm sure he would appreciate the ride. He'll probably teach you a thing or 2 about our technology while you're there.


Check out our website, browse our product catalogue and click Contact Us to get a free quote from one of our certified installers near you, now available in over 30 countries. Many of our installers are also certified in paint protection film (clear bra) and window tint, so you may find yourself only needing to call 1 place. Let them know you are a part of the Model 3 forum and post up your new car after you get it treated.

We are here to help and are happy to answer any car care questions you might have. So tag us in your posts with questions and we will be happy to assist if we can.

All the Best,
The FEYNLAB Team
Sounds great. Can you refer me to anyone offering the same products and services in St. Louis, MO?
 

CoastalCruiser

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Hello. Couple of questions please.

1) I am interested in the Hydrophobicity characteristic of the coating. All the coating brands I'e checked out have good hydro at first. What seems to vary a lot is how long the hydro is effective. There are some other popular, name brand formulations that, again, have great hydro up front, but the hydro property fades over time. Sometimes a few weeks. Sometimes a few months. Do you have any videos demonstrating how well your Ceramic Pro (let's say the best pro-sumer version of the product) repels water, over time. Not claims, mind you, actual video of the repellent action over time.

2) What is unique about Ceramic Pro that gives it the self-healing property?

3) Can the product be applied over film?

thanx!
 

FEYNLAB

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Hi Coastal Cruiser,

1. Here are some photos of my own personal car. These photos are from a coin op car wash in San Diego taken on May 1, 2018. The car was coated with Ceramic Lite in March of 2016. There are dozens of videos and photos scattered throughout YouTube and our Facebook Show and Shine group if you would like to hunt for more, but I can tell you the hydrophobics have outlasted any product I have used in the past. I used to be a certified installer for CQuartz Finest, Opti-Coat Pro Plus and Modesta. These photos from my car are using Ceramic Lite which is our entry-level DIY coating.

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2. You can read about our self-healing technology here Feynlab Self-Healing Technology Ceramic Pro and Feynlab are not the same company nor remotely similar in technology.

3. We have a product specifically developed for film. Feynlab PPF & Vinyl or you can use my personal favorite and easier to use Feynlab Topcoat or of course the most popular Feynlab Ceramic Lite

Thanks for reaching out!
 
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OK. Thanx for replying.

1) I'm not sure your photos came through. Not seeing them on this end.

2) Sorry for the Ceramic Pro reference (so many products, so little time). The video I had spotted with the wire brush demonstrating the self healing coating was a Feynlab product (Heal Plus).

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Thanx for the link that explains the self-heal formulation.

3) OK. But let's tie this together into a cohesive strategy please. Let's say my goal is a coating for 1) an existing PPF, 2) maximum hydo longevity 3) gloss level unimportant, 4) user applied, 5) cost irrelevant, 6) multi-layer coating ok if that's what gets the job done, but not just layers for the sake of layers.

How would you approach a customer with that criteria? For example would you recommend the PPF & vinyl ceramic product on the film, then a layer of your topcoat, and then maybe a layer of the Heal Plus? Or is the Heal Plus redundant given a PPF substrate?

thanx
 

FEYNLAB

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OK. Thanx for replying.

1) I'm not sure your photos came through. Not seeing them on this end.

2) Sorry for the Ceramic Pro reference (so many products, so little time). The video I had spotted with the wire brush demonstrating the self healing coating was a Feynlab product (Heal Plus).

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Thanx for the link that explains the self-heal formulation.

3) OK. But let's tie this together into a cohesive strategy please. Let's say my goal is a coating for 1) an existing PPF, 2) maximum hydo longevity 3) gloss level unimportant, 4) user applied, 5) cost irrelevant, 6) multi-layer coating ok if that's what gets the job done, but not just layers for the sake of layers.

How would you approach a customer with that criteria? For example would you recommend the PPF & vinyl ceramic product on the film, then a layer of your topcoat, and then maybe a layer of the Heal Plus? Or is the Heal Plus redundant given a PPF substrate?

thanx
1. I forgot to post them. They should be there now. Lazy Sunday

2. No problem, I was just giving a little jab.

3. A) The only coatings I would recommend for film and that are available to a consumer (not a certified Feynlab Detail shop) are Ceramic Lite, TopCoat, PPF & Vinyl.

PPF & Vinyl was specifically designed for optimally bonding and durability to the urethane films. However, if you aren't comfortable and experienced installing coatings, this can be a bit of a difficult install. I wouldn't necessarily recommend it for a non-professional in it's current version. We are working and close to releasing an easier install version.

TopCoat is easy to use and provides awesome water beading but most importantly it actually keeps dust build up at bay on urethane films. If you ever noticed your clear bra getting dustier than the painted areas of your vehicle, this can help level the playing field.

Ceramic Lite is the easiest install and a great all around product that is safe for just about every surface. It's basically dummy-proof and performs as well as many of the competitors "pro" top level coatings. This is what's on my car in the above pictures.

Heal Lite & Heal Plus are not to be installed on top of any film... paint-only and are both only available for professional installation through our network of certified detail shops.

For best results, but somewhat of a difficult install - PPF & Vinyl base layer with TopCoat on top.
Second best results, pretty easy install - Ceramic Lite base layer with TopCoat on top.
Third best results, pretty easy install - TopCoat
Fourth best results, very easy install - Ceramic Lite

After install, you will want to pick up some Detailer V2 as a maintenance wipe-down product to use after washing. This will help keep that water beading super tight over the years. Not 100% necessary but best practice.
 
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Perfect.

And, I'm not getting my Model 3 until late next year (this is all recon work), so hurry up and make that PPF & Vinyl work for idiots like me. ;>
 

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From our prosumer line of products like Textile, Leather Treatment
I just bought some of the textile and leather treatment products. Have their been previous applications of the leather treatment on the white seats on the S, X, or 3 and did the leather treatment change the seat from the existing soft seat to a harder, less soft surface? I just took delivery of a new 3 yesterday and am doing some due diligence before applying on my new white seats.
 

FEYNLAB

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I just bought some of the textile and leather treatment products. Have their been previous applications of the leather treatment on the white seats on the S, X, or 3 and did the leather treatment change the seat from the existing soft seat to a harder, less soft surface? I just took delivery of a new 3 yesterday and am doing some due diligence before applying on my new white seats.
Hi Steve,
This is a leather conditioner and is lanolin based, so it's not a leather coating like some of our competitor products you might be thinking of. Our leather conditioner not only keeps your seats soft and supple, but hydrates the leather all while protecting it with our proprietary ceramic technology. We are soon releasing a Pro only 2-part leather coating, but it won't be available for non-pro installers. Unfortunately, to this point, I haven't seen a product that 100% protects white leather from blue jean staining without turning the seat hard and slick, but our conditioner will definitely help.
Best,
Nolan
 

Gusm3

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What kind of PPF do you guys recommend? To the fact that your coat material wont renter results with any ppf? Help what. Goes on first PPF or ceramic coating ?
 

FEYNLAB

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What kind of PPF do you guys recommend? To the fact that your coat material wont renter results with any ppf? Help what. Goes on first PPF or ceramic coating ?
We have had good luck with XPel Ultimate film in the past and that is the most popular brand, so it's a pretty safe bet. You are going to want to ceramic coat after the PPF because if you do coat the panel first, you will have adhesion issues with the PPF not being able to stick to the coated paint. Plus, coating the PPF gives you added benefits of gloss, slickness, ease of maintenance, improved stain resistance, etc...
 

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@FEYNLAB Excellent info, thanks! Very timely as well since I am looking into getting Feynlab Ceramic Lite on top of Suntek Ultra PPF.
1)I assume no issues with Ceramic Lite over Suntek vs XPEL? Either PPF should be fine without any loss of the Suntek's gloss, scratch protection/self-healing or rock chip protection?

2) Your website does not explicitly mention PPF or Vinyl as surfaces that Ceramic Lite can be applied to, is this just an outdated page (https://www.feynlab.com/product/ceramic_lite/)
or is this not optimal, but will work?

3) I know PPF & Vinyl product is better, but it looks like the costs are almost double over Ceramic Lite, what do I get for the much higher price of the PPF&Vinyl product vs Ceramic Lite:
better hydrophobicity? better adherence? they both last 1 year, so durability seems the same?

4) Also, can I put on an additional layer of Ceramic Lite to increase durability? So, it would be PPF+2 layers of Ceramic Lite...
 
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