Deliveries to Texas (sales tax & other details...)

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So update on the process for the Texas folks like @Archer and @Quicksilver
Got the VIN this morning and the call from the ISA this afternoon.
They sent me the Purchase Agreement via email. After I signed it electronically, it then went to my wife's email to sign. Once that was done, it was available to pay for in MyTesla.

Now, what he said is, the car has been made and is in Fremont. It is on its way to the hub in SoCal where it is inspected before it is TRUCKED to Texas (his words).
For Texas, the vehicle needs to be PAID for before it will be released to be shipped.
So since I am paying cash, I paid via ACH. They no longer are able to accept Cashiers Checks at time of delivery. With their new easier delivery process for Texas it needs to be paid ahead of time. So your only 2 options are ACH or Wire Transfer.
I did the ACH and it already shows PAID IN FULL :)

He did say the car won't clear the hub until the 10th and wont be here until the 16th. I will be on Spring Break with the family, so tentatively delivery will be 19 March.

Besides the 6.25% Texas Sales Tax on the whole price including the $1000 Delivery Fee, there is a $235.50 fee for Registration/Transfer/Titling, $7 for state inspection and $29.75 Operating Permit Fee (whatever that is!)
 
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I just had a call from my Tesla rep. I had called the 888 number yesterday to ask if I could move my delivery location from Texas to California if Texas was having issues. The rep verified that Texas had been having issues but they were now getting resolved. He also informed me that deliveries in Texas will take an extra 7-10 days beyond the 3-6 weeks mainly due to requiring payment to be processed before the car can be loaded onto the shipping truck. The rep also mentioned that I would receive a package in the next few weeks with papers to sign for the DMV and it'd have a pre-paid envelope to send back. Since I already have a loan ready to go, he said it'd make the process a little faster but not much.

I asked when should I expect a VIN number and he said within 2-3 weeks from today (I configured 02.22). He did mention that he normally doesn't call anyone unless he had a VIN ready for them but since I had called yesterday asking about moving my delivery location, he had decided to call me before then. I am financing through Alliant and all they need now is a VIN. He said once I'm assigned a VIN, he would contact Alliant and give them all of the information to get the ball rolling so the vehicle can be loaded as quickly as possible. Once the vehicle arrives here in Houston, it's going to be the "easiest pick up ever", he claimed.

So the "Texas Issues" are/were true. I don't expect my vehicle to arrive until possibly mid April and that's fine as long as it gets here. As much as I'd love to get it sooner, the drive from CA to TX is a little too boring for me and knowing me, I'd end up in Vegas and losing the car at the craps table.
 

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. The rep also mentioned that I would receive a package in the next few weeks with papers to sign for the DMV and it'd have a pre-paid envelope to send back. Since I already have a loan ready to go, he said it'd make the process a little faster but not much.
Strange, I know they use a service via FedEx for the DMV paperwork and registration, but my ISA didn't mention that. I was under the impression that that would be taken care of at the delivery center. Of course he is off Fri thru Sun, so will have to ask on Monday
 
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So update on the process for the Texas folks like @Archer and @Quicksilver
Got the VIN this morning and the call from the ISA this afternoon.
They sent me the Purchase Agreement via email. After I signed it electronically, it then went to my wife's email to sign. Once that was done, it was available to pay for in MyTesla.

Now, what he said is, the car has been made and is in Fremont. It is on its way to the hub in SoCal where it is inspected before it is TRUCKED to Texas (his words).
For Texas, the vehicle needs to be PAID for before it will be released to be shipped.
So since I am paying cash, I paid via ACH. They no longer are able to accept Cashiers Checks at time of delivery. With their new easier delivery process for Texas it needs to be paid ahead of time. So your only 2 options are ACH or Wire Transfer.
I did the ACH and it already shows PAID IN FULL :)

He did say the car won't clear the hub until the 10th and wont be here until the 16th. I will be on Spring Break with the family, so tentatively delivery will be 19 March.

Besides the 6.25% Texas Sales Tax on the whole price including the $1000 Delivery Fee, there is a $235.50 fee for Registration/Transfer/Titling, $7 for state inspection and $29.75 Operating Permit Fee (whatever that is!)
@LUXMAN, great info! Thank You! So some questions if you don't mind: Why did they also need your wife to sign it? Is the car in both your names?

On the payment processing, since I will either go with Tesla loan or my pre-approved CU loan, I guess if I go with the CU loan, they will provide me with papers to send to my CU to get the car paid - at least this is my guess. My CU mentioned that they have worked with Tesla so I hope it is a smooth process.

So, it seems like 10 days to clear the hub and 6 days to truck it to Texas.

Thanks for breaking down the TT&L and that "operating permit fee." So, my configuration will be... $35k+$9k(LR)+$5k(PUP)+$1k(paint)+$1.5k(wheels)+$1k(doc) = $52.5k + $3281.25(tax) + $235.50 (TL) + $7(insp)+ $29.75(fee) = $56053.50 - $3500(res. & config.) = $52553.50 to finance...which I'll put down $10k to reduce it overall for financing. I think these numbers are correct. :)
 
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@LUXMAN, great info! Thank You! So some questions if you don't mind: Why did they also need your wife to sign it? Is the car in both your names?

On the payment processing, since I will either go with Tesla loan or my pre-approved CU loan, I guess if I go with the CU loan, they will provide me with papers to send to my CU to get the car paid - at least this is my guess. My CU mentioned that they have worked with Tesla so I hope it is a smooth process.

So, it seems like 10 days to clear the hub and 6 days to truck it to Texas.

Thanks for breaking down the TT&L and that "operating permit fee." So, my configuration will be... $35k+$9k(LR)+$5k(PUP)+$1k(paint)+$1.5k(wheels)+$1k(doc) = $52.5k + $3281.25(tax) + $235.50 (TTL) + $7(insp)+ $29.75(fee) = $56053.50 - $3500(res. & config.) = $52553.50 to finance...which I'll put down $10k to reduce it overall for financing. I think these numbers are correct. :)
Don't believe we can finance the taxes and fees. You need to pay that separate.
 

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So I'm guessing I'll have to ACH/Wire 57,500 x 6.25% = 3,593.75 + 235.50 + 7 + 29.75 = 3,866.00. This is separate from my finance loan as that's through the bank and they'd take my deposit. Good to know.
I guess I am not clear on what you said about tax, title, etc... $3,866. I thought you could roll the whole thing into the final amount minus what you pay up front ($3.5k + whatever amount you choose).

Oops...just saw your post on paying it separately.
 

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I guess I am not clear on what you said about tax, title, etc... $3,866. I thought you could roll the whole thing into the final amount minus what you pay up front ($3.5k + whatever amount you choose).

Oops...just saw your post on paying it separately.
Maybe I didn't understand it right when my rep was talking to me. Can someone verify this is true? Don't want to be spreading false info.
 

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You can finance the taxes and fees for sure. I've had many car loans and never had a bank that would not finance the total purchase price including all the fees. You may get a better rate with more money down but that has nothing to do with the fees.
 

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You can finance the taxes and fees for sure. I've had many car loans and never had a bank that would not finance the total purchase price including all the fees. You may get a better rate with more money down but that has nothing to do with the fees.
This is typically true for any normal financing, but here in Texas Tesla separates the taxes and fees from the car's price. This is only Tesla, not any other car manufacturer. So curious of how you could finance the taxes and fees if they are making me pay a different entity (a third party) for the taxes and fees. Tesla gets my $57,500. Guess I'm a little confused on that.
 
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This is typically true for any normal financing, but here in Texas Tesla separates the taxes and fees from the car's price. This is only Tesla, not any other car manufacturer. So curious of how you could finance the taxes and fees if they are making me pay a different entity (a third party) for the taxes and fees. Tesla gets my $57,500. Guess I'm a little confused on that.
My friend who bought a Model S in Texas a couple years ago had to pay the sales tax separately from the car. So, it was at least true then. Not sure if anything has changed. I think this all has to do with Tesla not being able to sell their cars in Texas.
 

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This is typically true for any normal financing, but here in Texas Tesla separates the taxes and fees from the car's price. This is only Tesla, not any other car manufacturer. So curious of how you could finance the taxes and fees if they are making me pay a different entity (a third party) for the taxes and fees. Tesla gets my $57,500. Guess I'm a little confused on that.
You're probably correct in that we have to pay the TTL/fees separately because TX does not allow Tesla to sell direct to consumers. So my guess is that we are buying the car "out of state" then the third party in Vegas registers it like we are "moving" from California to Texas and thus paying the TTL/fees separately...essentially, a work around to the no direct sales law.
 

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Don't believe we can finance the taxes and fees. You need to pay that separate.
I'll have to go find the post, but it has been reported that you can now included the taxes in a Texas sale/loan. This is different than a couple years back with Tesla in TX. Tesla files all the paper work and hence why you are signing papers and they take are of it like any other dealer would.

I'll look for it over the next day or two, may have been on a different forum, but quite certain a sale has been completed in TX with taxes rolled in. The only catch is that the car sale must be completed while the car is in CA before it is shipped, that is why funding before shipping. At that time Tesla is simply hiring a carrier on your behalf, insured, to have your car delivered to TX.

EDITED TO ADD LINK ABOUT TAXES IN TEXAS - This is a good thread for anyone in TX about delivery. Also another person confirmed the add on fees to the penny. Start in post 244 and read for a few posts about taxes being wrapped in now. https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/texas-hold-up.108153/page-13
 
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I'll have to go find the post, but it has been reported that you can now included the taxes in a Texas sale. This is different than a couple years back with Tesla in TX. I'll look for it over the next day or two, may have been on a different forum, but quite certain a sale has been completed in TX with taxes rolled in. The only catch is that the car sale must be completed while the car is in CA before it is shipped, that is why funding before shipping. At that time Tesla is simply hiring a carrier on your behalf, insured, to have your car delivered to TX.
I hope that this is true. Makes it a little less of a hassle in the buying experience.
 

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I hope that this is true. Makes it a little less of a hassle in the buying experience.
The Texas Sales Tax was included in the price when I paid yesterday. They are taking care of everything now. You no longer need to go to the DMV to register the car in Texas. You will receive the plates by Mail. The following was from an Email exchange with a Delivery Specialist that I met at the Dallas Delivery Center

"The registration and license plate process has indeed become easier. Tesla uses a third party vendor to register the vehicles for us. Owners are issued temporary paper tags that are on the vehicle at pickup. The papers signed at delivery are used to register the car and the permanent tags are Fed Exed to the address you provided for your MyTesla account, usually within 4-6 weeks.
Your Delivery Specialist will be in contact with you after you place the order and will make certain documents used for registration are in order. This includes driver's license (front and back), current insurance, and other items. This will ensure the registration process goes smoothly and there are no delays on your or Tesla's part for registration."
 

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This is typically true for any normal financing, but here in Texas Tesla separates the taxes and fees from the car's price. This is only Tesla, not any other car manufacturer. So curious of how you could finance the taxes and fees if they are making me pay a different entity (a third party) for the taxes and fees. Tesla gets my $57,500. Guess I'm a little confused on that.
Oh, I see. I didn't realize you were talking about the "Texas Thing".....lol. I guess if that is the case you may have to pay separate, that kinda sucks. Guess when you live in a state that loves big oil they will make it as hard as they can on an electric car company.
 

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The Texas Sales Tax was included in the price when I paid yesterday. They are taking care of everything now. You no longer need to go to the DMV to register the car in Texas. You will receive the plates by Mail. The following was from an Email exchange with a Delivery Specialist that I met at the Dallas Delivery Center

"The registration and license plate process has indeed become easier. Tesla uses a third party vendor to register the vehicles for us. Owners are issued temporary paper tags that are on the vehicle at pickup. The papers signed at delivery are used to register the car and the permanent tags are Fed Exed to the address you provided for your MyTesla account, usually within 4-6 weeks.
Your Delivery Specialist will be in contact with you after you place the order and will make certain documents used for registration are in order. This includes driver's license (front and back), current insurance, and other items. This will ensure the registration process goes smoothly and there are no delays on your or Tesla's part for registration."
Interesting. Hope it's the same for paying cash vs financing. Either way, I'm set. Just need to know where to send my money which Tesla will tell me. Thanks for all of the info, Luxman!
 

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@LUXMAN, great info! Thank You! So some questions if you don't mind: Why did they also need your wife to sign it? Is the car in both your names?

On the payment processing, since I will either go with Tesla loan or my pre-approved CU loan, I guess if I go with the CU loan, they will provide me with papers to send to my CU to get the car paid - at least this is my guess. My CU mentioned that they have worked with Tesla so I hope it is a smooth process.

So, it seems like 10 days to clear the hub and 6 days to truck it to Texas.

Thanks for breaking down the TT&L and that "operating permit fee." So, my configuration will be... $35k+$9k(LR)+$5k(PUP)+$1k(paint)+$1.5k(wheels)+$1k(doc) = $52.5k + $3281.25(tax) + $235.50 (TL) + $7(insp)+ $29.75(fee) = $56053.50 - $3500(res. & config.) = $52553.50 to finance...which I'll put down $10k to reduce it overall for financing. I think these numbers are correct. :)
Yes, it will be I. Both our names in case I kick the bucket.

That is exact configured and price that I paid
 

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This is typically true for any normal financing, but here in Texas Tesla separates the taxes and fees from the car's price. This is only Tesla, not any other car manufacturer. So curious of how you could finance the taxes and fees if they are making me pay a different entity (a third party) for the taxes and fees. Tesla gets my $57,500. Guess I'm a little confused on that.
The purchase order comes with everything listed including taxes. So they take care of that. Can’t see why that would be any different from financing. And when I financed cars before, the taxes were in there too, so I don’t think that will be a problem for you. It is just a difference where you get the money. Doubt Tesla cares who gives you the money, they will take are of everything.
 

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OK, so we just got back from Spring Break last night and I have delivery this morning (Monday) at 11 in Dallas. :smile:
When we came home there was a FedEx package on the doorstep. I think it came yesterday as our neighbor was picking up the mail daily.
It has docs to sign for the TX DMV that I am supposed to return before delivery of my car.
But they say do not date and do not indicate that they must have them back before I can actually get the car
They say they will fill in the dates for me.
So I will be dropping it off at FedEx on the way to get the car.
Looks very straightforward.

I will post if anything weird for TX happens for the delivery here. Else it will be in the regular Delivery thread.
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