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So...if the stars all align and the ramp up to Model 3 delivery goes as Elon suggests, I figure that I should get my car sometime in quarter 3 of 2018. (April 25th reservation in Georgia.) I was just trying to put together a list of cars that would be on the market at that time that would be say...under $50K, BEV with over 200 miles of range.

I know I must be missing a bunch because my list is exactly one...Chevy Bolt.

What others are slated to be available at that time that would meet those criteria?

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The model 3 is going to be my wife's daily commuter car (and my toy when she's not using it). She's said she really likes the look of the Smart convertibles, something cute. I'm keeping my eye on a cheap used electric one that will buy us time until we get ours. My reservation is Apr 26 in Vancouver, BC
 

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So...if the stars all align and the ramp up to Model 3 delivery goes as Elon suggests, I figure that I should get my car sometime in quarter 3 of 2018. (April 25th reservation in Georgia.) I was just trying to put together a list of cars that would be on the market at that time that would be say...under $50K, BEV with over 200 miles of range.

I know I must be missing a bunch because my list is exactly one...Chevy Bolt.

What others are slated to be available at that time that would meet those criteria?

Dan
i3 is expected to get a good bump in range sometime soon too, so maybe it could be on your 200/mile sub $50k list.
 

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(...)She's said she really likes the look of the Smart convertibles, something cute. (...)
@Jason Klatt , trust you realize that Daimler's Smart will not get you anywhere near 200 miles of range, though probably not an issue if used as a daily commuter car... ;)
 

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What competition?
Who else has the SC network?
sorry but I don't see any other EV car out there-right now-there isn't.
Who else has a battery that will go a million miles before it needs replacement?
Who can charge up in 15 min because they have the new battery cells?
No competition. Zilch.
 

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What competition?
Who else has the SC network?
sorry but I don't see any other EV car out there-right now-there isn't.
Who else has a battery that will go a million miles before it needs replacement?
Who can charge up in 15 min because they have the new battery cells?
No competition. Zilch.
I get it, and I agree. I am just wondering what else is going to be out there in the longish range EV market.

Dan
 

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Supposedly a new Nissan LEAF might make the grade by sometime in Q3/Q4 2018. But there seem to only be rumors thus far... With only baby steps in reality, such as the 30 kWh version. Some are real champions of Nissan/Renault's efforts on the EV front. I tend to be less than optimistic when it comes to traditional automobile manufacturers' chances of moving forward with EVs in a worthwhile fashion.
 

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Here's an excerpt from one report:

Nissan CEO Carlos Ghosn today confirmed that a second-generation Nissan Leaf electric car is coming "in the near future," though he didn't specify a date or model year.

The new Leaf will come with Nissan's ProPilot technology, which permits the car to drive itself autonomously within a highway under certain circumstances.

Ghosn noted that more than 250,000 Leafs have been sold globally since its December 2010 launch, making it by far the world's highest-volume electric car.
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A few further snippets on the next Leaf came from a question-and answer session earlier in the day with Takao Asami, a Nissan senior vice president of research and advanced engineering.
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Asami confirmed that at least one version of the next Leaf would have a range "at or above 200 miles," though he said the company was debating whether different ranges might be required for North America, Europe, and Asia.
-- Next Nissan Leaf: Propilot Self Driving Included, 200 Mile Range or More Confirmed | GreenCarReports
 

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Here's an excerpt from one report:

Nissan CEO Carlos Ghosn today confirmed that a second-generation Nissan Leaf electric car is coming "in the near future," though he didn't specify a date or model year.

The new Leaf will come with Nissan's ProPilot technology, which permits the car to drive itself autonomously within a highway under certain circumstances.

Ghosn noted that more than 250,000 Leafs have been sold globally since its December 2010 launch, making it by far the world's highest-volume electric car.
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A few further snippets on the next Leaf came from a question-and answer session earlier in the day with Takao Asami, a Nissan senior vice president of research and advanced engineering.
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Asami confirmed that at least one version of the next Leaf would have a range "at or above 200 miles," though he said the company was debating whether different ranges might be required for North America, Europe, and Asia.
-- Next Nissan Leaf: Propilot Self Driving Included, 200 Mile Range or More Confirmed | GreenCarReports
It reports like this that completely nullify the Nissan fans who say Nissan needed to payback the development cost of the LEAF.
If that were the case you would think the worlds highest volume EV would have been able to get a decent update beyond fresh paint and a 6kWH boost. GM managed it with the Volt and have gone one to produce the Spark and Bolt.
I reckon they got close to being ready but their 200mile car was with NEDC not EPA, hence the weird battery size in the Zoe.
When I got my LEAF three years ago, I leased it because we were expecting the new car in a year or two, yet here we are three years later expecting it in a year or so.
Nissan are about to become the also ran, even Ford is outselling them now.