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there are lots and lots of youtube videos covering "adventures in Tesla CCS land" including from our own @TrevP but the consensus is mixed at best.

sometimes works. sometimes not.
as fast as CHADEMO, but no faster even though CCS is rated at faster
some charge companies/locations/equipment fare better than others
some say you need to plug into the cable first, some say into the car first and holding you tongue out the side of your mouth *may* help the connexion
firmware updates of the adapter help. except when they don't

the consistent opinion is to stick with the Tesla CHADemo adapter especially due to the high price of this CCS adapter, but with the price drop that playing field is levelled

oh, and YMMV of course
 

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It seems the CCS adaptor is just spoofing CHAdeMO protocols. Nobody that I’m aware of have reverse engineered the Supercharging protocols yet so until that happens the most we’ll ever see is CHAdeMO like speeds
 

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as fast as CHADEMO, but no faster even though CCS is rated at faster
It consistently pulls 200A on S/X, that is 70% faster then CHADEMO
It seems the CCS adaptor is just spoofing CHAdeMO protocols. Nobody that I’m aware of have reverse engineered the Supercharging protocols yet so until that happens the most we’ll ever see is CHAdeMO like speeds
what makes you think that?
 

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It consistently pulls 200A on S/X, that is 70% faster then CHADEMO
80 kW ~= 200 A * 400 VDC

Best of all, Teslas can use CCS-1 spots charging much faster than so many other EVs that barely break 50 kW.

Bob Wilson

ps. Apologies about my math error earlier.
 
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It consistently pulls 200A on S/X, that is 70% faster then CHADEMO

what makes you think that?
Trevor and Lance are discussing the CCS1 adapter made by Setec.




I think you're talking about Tesla's CCS2 adapter.

 
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Trevor and Lance are discussing the CCS1 adapter made by Setec.




I think you're talking about Tesla's CCS2 adapter.


Correct, let’s not get the 2 confused. Tesla offers a CCS adapter for Model S X in Europe, all Model 3s in Europe support CCS

we’re talking about a third party CCS adapter by Setec Power for North America. It is rated at a max of 80kW but we’ve only been able to achieve about 50kW because it is spoofing the CHAdeMO protocols of the Tesla CHAdeMO adapter which has the same limit
 
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Trevor and Lance are discussing the CCS1 adapter made by Setec.

I think you're talking about Tesla's CCS2 adapter.
I'm talking about Setec's CCS1 - it's reliably getting 200A into S/X and 125A into 3

Tesla's CCS2 adapter is quoted at 200A on the sticker but is actually pulling through more than that.
 
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I'm talking about Setec's CCS1 - it's reliably getting 200A into S/X and 125A into 3

Tesla's CCS2 adapter is quoted at 200A on the sticker but is actually pulling through more than that.
What’s the firmware on it? I’ve never been able to get more than 45kW on mine
 

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