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[Mod note: blindspot detection and warning are now a feature of Firmware Version 9. See this thread for details and discussion.]

Has anyone been close enough to a Model 3 RC or caught in a picture a close up of the side mirrors?

Frankly, I think blind spot detection is one of the worst handled features on Model S. Showing the cars around you is great for autopilot but useless for blind spot detection. In addition there is no audible alert when your turn signal is activated and something is in your blind spot.

If it stays the same but moves to the central screen, it takes something bad and makes it worse.

When I'm switching lanes, I use my mirrors and having the warning light there is smart rather than on a screen away from where I'm looking.

Now while I welcome your opinions, this thread is purely intended to be about what anyone has seen or expects to see when it comes to blind spot detection and not aimed at starting a discussion regarding properly positioning your mirrors so that blind spots do not exist.

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Has anyone been close enough to a Model 3 RC or caught in a picture a close up of the side mirrors?

Frankly, I think blind spot detection is one of the worst handled features on Model S. Showing the cars around you is great for autopilot but useless for blind spot detection. In addition there is no audible alert when your turn signal is activated and something is in your blind spot.

If it stays the same but moves to the central screen, it takes something bad and makes it worse.

When I'm switching lanes, I use my mirrors and having the warning light there is smart rather than on a screen away from where I'm looking.

Now while I welcome your opinions, this thread is purely intended to be about what anyone has seen or expects to see when it comes to blind spot detection and not aimed at starting a discussion regarding properly positioning your mirrors so that blind spots do not exist.

Thanks in advance!
Blind spot detection is implemented through autopilot sonar sensors and displayed on the centre binnacle. On the Model 3 I believe it will be displayed in the first 1/3 of the main screen under the speed indicator. We'll see what Tesla has come up with
 

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Blind spot detection is implemented through autopilot sonar sensors and displayed on the centre binnacle. On the Model 3 I believe it will be displayed in the first 1/3 of the main screen under the speed indicator. We'll see what Tesla has come up with
I anticipate that you're right, but I do think that's flawed. I'm fine with the speedo on the center screen, but blind spot detection belongs where your eyes go when changing lanes (to the mirrors).
 
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Sofla, what version of AP does your father's car have?

I dunno, I've never driven a car with blind spot detection, so I don't have any preconceived ideas how it might work. I suppose that I will just train myself to think, - I want to change lanes, quick glance at the UI to check for cars nearby, quick glance at appropriate mirrors, and then let 'er rip. Then again maybe I'll do it by California Braille blind spot detection, - don't look at anything and just start gradually moving over to the next lane until someone honks at you. Don't ask me how I know this works. :rolleyes:
 
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My Mercedes with blind spot detection has a red triangle in the side view mirror when anyone is in your "blind" spot. It's very conveniently located since the first place you look before changing lanes is the side mirror, so you can tell instantly if someone is next to you. If you put on your turn signal when the red triangle is lit, a beeping chime is heard through the speakers to warn you someone is next to you and it's not safe to change lanes.
 

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Sofla, what version of AP does your father's car have?

I dunno, I've never driven a car with blind spot detection, so I don't have any preconceived ideas how it might work. I suppose that I will just train myself to think, - I want to change lanes, quick glance at the UI to check for cars nearby, quick glance at appropriate mirrors, and then let 'er rip. Then again maybe I'll do it by California Braille blind spot detection, - don't look at anything and just start gradually moving over to the next lane until someone honks at you. Don't ask me how I know this works. :rolleyes:
That's a good question. I know it's not the latest and greatest (no camera in the side marker or in between the doors). Car was brand new December 2016...

My Mercedes with blind spot detection has a red triangle in the side view mirror when anyone is in your "blind" spot. It's very conveniently located since the first place you look before changing lanes is the side mirror, so you can tell instantly if someone is next to you. If you put on your turn signal when the red triangle is lit, a beeping chime is heard through the speakers to warn you someone is next to you and it's not safe to change lanes.
Same concept in my car. Tesla Model S does not have anything in the mirror, nor if there a beeping chime when you put on your turn signal and someone is in your blind spot.
 

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Blind spot detection is implemented through autopilot sonar sensors and displayed on the centre binnacle. On the Model 3 I believe it will be displayed in the first 1/3 of the main screen under the speed indicator. We'll see what Tesla has come up with
Trevor, I'm a fan of the blind spot LED's we both have on your MKC and my Escape Titanium. You have to look in the mirror anyway. It seems counter intuitive to have to check the center screen first. That little light has helped me a couple of times......!
 

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Trevor, I'm a fan of the blind spot LED's we both have on your MKC and my Escape Titanium. You have to look in the mirror anyway. It seems counter intuitive to have to check the center screen first. That little light has helped me a couple of times......!
That was my rationale for the thread.

All signs seem to point to this being the same on Model 3 as it is on Model S/X. You see it on the display rather than the mirror :(
 

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Putting it in the central display is pretty stupid IMO.

BSD should be in the mirrors as many manufacturers do at the moment, on my current car the BSD symbol in the mirror flashes when you indicate if it has detected a vehicle in your blind spot... a great idea.
 

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Putting it in the central display is pretty stupid IMO.

BSD should be in the mirrors as many manufacturers do at the moment, on my current car the BSD symbol in the mirror flashes when you indicate if it has detected a vehicle in your blind spot... a great idea.
I agree, generally I'm ok with putting most things on the central screen, but blind spot indicators need to be on or near the mirrors.
 

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Do current Teslas resist or vibrate steering to prevent turning into cars in blind spot?
That may be an alternative to mirror indicators, although the indicators are still better at preventing you from even starting the action.
I agree center screen is the last place I'm looking when changing lanes and a terrible place.
Maybe there's a HUD on the door windows :p
 

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My Mercedes with blind spot detection has a red triangle in the side view mirror when anyone is in your "blind" spot. It's very conveniently located since the first place you look before changing lanes is the side mirror, so you can tell instantly if someone is next to you. If you put on your turn signal when the red triangle is lit, a beeping chime is heard through the speakers to warn you someone is next to you and it's not safe to change lanes.
Drove a Mercedes loaner recently and I liked this setup. On the BMW it appears on the center console screen. Prefer the Mercedes.
 

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Do current Teslas resist or vibrate steering to prevent turning into cars in blind spot?
That may be an alternative to mirror indicators, although the indicators are still better at preventing you from even starting the action.
I agree center screen is the last place I'm looking when changing lanes and a terrible place.
Maybe there's a HUD on the door windows :p
Drove my dad's S last weekend and there was no audible alert nor vibration. Blinker on with car in the blind spot.
 
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My Audi has yellow (amber) lights on the inner part of the mirror assembly. They're an always-on style, so I don't have to put a blinker on, etc to have it alert me to a car back there.

Seems to work just fine.


I'd be OK if Tesla did something similar.
 

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My Audi has yellow (amber) lights on the inner part of the mirror assembly. They're an always-on style, so I don't have to put a blinker on, etc to have it alert me to a car back there.

Seems to work just fine.


I'd be OK if Tesla did something similar.
We are all but confirmed that they won’t be doing this. The left 1/3 of the center screen will show the surrounding of the car. I still find that a pinch disappointing, but not a deal breaker.
 

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Does anyone know if there is an audible alarm?
I believe so ... trying to think about Model S driving. At slow speeds you get the audible alert (i.e. when parking) but I just can't remember in motion at speed.

In my car today, the audible alert is loud if someone is in my blind spot and I have the turn signal engaged.
 

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