Big Model S Upgrade

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Ok folks. We've pretty well exhausted our thoughts about the Model 3. Let's help Elon and figure out what big changes will be made to the Model S in the next year or so. A few ideas:
* 2170 battery
* HUD
* new colours
* higher charging rate capability
* 120 kwh battery

I am a "full-size" guy; my wife told me that we could look at a Model S if the seating in the Model 3 felt too small for me. (Btw I got that in writing.) I think that if it came to that, I would want to wait for the 2170 battery at least and maybe the HUD. What do you think?
 

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Ok folks. We've pretty well exhausted our thoughts about the Model 3. Let's help Elon and figure out what big changes will be made to the Model S in the next year or so. A few ideas:
* 2170 battery
* HUD
* new colours
* higher charging rate capability
* 120 kwh battery
I think your list is spot on but I would add - new minimalist interior similar to model 3, door pockets, more expensive detailing and materials on interior, possibility it will lose the 'stache but maybe not.
 

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I would like to see Tesla eliminate the fascia "moustache" and go with a super clean look comparable to the Model 3. I wish someone with photoshop skills could share an image capturing that look.

As for colors, I would pay extra for that shimmering silver used on one of the Model 3 Alphas.

HUD? Yes please.

Love the other possibilities too.
 

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I would like to see Tesla eliminate the fascia "moustache" and go with a super clean look comparable to the Model 3. I wish someone with photoshop skills could share an image capturing that look.
Currently, the Model S frunk's cut-line extends all of the way to the front edge of the car. Removing the mustache means that you're still going to end up with a "pencil-thin" mustache at the front. In order to redesign it correctly, Tesla will also need to change the frunk lid to end a little further back, and change the front bumper to extend up between the headlights a bit.
 
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My list:
  • Spaceship-like controls
  • Bigger screen(s)
  • Augmented reality on Tesla Glass windshield
  • Highly improved interior styling with Porsche Mission E influence
  • Amenities such as swivel+sleeper seating that would be ideal for full autonomous driving
  • Pothole avoidance
  • Sharper body styling - more pronounced creases similar to Model 3
  • Better audio system
  • Tires that never go flat
  • Battery capable of being 80% charged via SC in 5 minutes
  • Electromagnetic transmission for enhanced acceleration at higher speeds
  • And for bragging rights, some distinct feature that would be impossible to achieve with an ICE vehicle
 

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My input:

  • Update the interior!!!!!
  • Change the wiper fluid filler location
  • Wider frunk like Model X
  • Better turning radius
  • Move front cross member back a bit for better visibility
  • Remove centre rear headrest for better visibility

Wait, all of those things are on the Model 3. Never mind
 

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Wouldn't this require making the wheelbase shorter, and therefore leaving less room for the battery?
Not required. You can also accomplish this by allowing the front wheels to turn more. The Mercedes/Dodge Sprinter vans have an incredibly tight turning radius despite their long wheelbases because of this.

The Model S is hindered by the two battery modules currently stacked between the front wheels. It limits how far the wheels can be turned.
 

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How about rain-sensing windshield wipers that work? They have a sensor that's separate from the "8 cameras." This sensor is unchanged from before AP2 hardware was introduced. Honda has had rain-sensing wipers since before the turn of the century, for the love of Mike.
I drove through light rain today, and neither of the currently available intermittent settings was appropriate. I had to drive down the road in my US$92K automobile, manually tapping the button each time I wanted a swipe.
What in the world is so difficult about implementing the rain-sensing wipers that they mention in their owner's manual?
 

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How about rain-sensing windshield wipers that work? […] Honda has had rain-sensing wipers since before the turn of the century, for the love of Mike.
Which Honda vehicle(s) had rain-sensing wipers at the turn of the century? Acuras? I know my reasonably equipped 2005 Accord certainly doesn't.
 
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I remember seeing Fisker at NYIAS right before their demise and they had a solar roof on one of their show cars.

That was over 5 years ago!!! why doesn't TESLA HAVE THIS YET!? To up sell to their longer range models?? comon!

EDIT
after a quick search it was 2012 NYIAS:
 
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I remember seeing Fisker at NYIAS right before their demise and they had a solar roof on one of their show cars.

That was over 5 years ago!!! why doesn't TESLA HAVE THIS YET!? To up sell to their longer range models?? comon!

EDIT
after a quick search it was 2012 NYIAS:
Why not? Because a whole car covered in solar panels won't provide significant charge, let alone a car's tiny roof.

You can lug around an air conditioner with you to keep yourself cool, but it wouldn't be very practical. ;)
 

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  • Lambo doors in front
  • Suicide doors in back
  • Spinner rims
  • Ability to slam suspension
  • Free supercharging standard on S/X
  • Better seats in back
  • AR HUD
  • CCS charging adapter
  • Tow hitch on S
  • Longer range
  • Screens on back of seats
  • Camper mode
  • Ability for V2G in emergencies
 
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Why not? Because a whole car covered in solar panels won't provide significant charge, let alone a car's tiny roof.

You can lug around an air conditioner with you to keep yourself cool, but it wouldn't be very practical. ;)
If it gets me 15-20 miles travel over 8-9 hours on the sun, it means I drive home from work for free. I'm happy with that.

Based on modern solar panel generating about 250 watt x 8 hrs is 2kwh
Basen on 85kwh battery having range of 265mi, you're getting 6.24 miles free.

Why not?
 
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If it gets me 15-20 miles travel over 8-9 hours on the sun, it means I drive home from work for free. I'm happy with that.
From the almighty Wikipedia.

The Karma includes as standard[26] a solar paneled roof manufactured by Asola Advanced and Automotive Solar Systems GmbH, a Quantum Technologies affiliate,[27] to aid the cabin climate control system. The solar roof is capable of generating a half kilowatt-hour a day[28] and was estimated to provide up to 4 to 5 miles (6.4–8.0 km) of additional range a week assuming continuously sunny days;[29] however, the solar panels as delivered only recharge the 12-volt lead-acid accessory battery.[30]
 
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From the almighty Wikipedia.

The Karma includes as standard[26] a solar paneled roof manufactured by Asola Advanced and Automotive Solar Systems GmbH, a Quantum Technologies affiliate,[27] to aid the cabin climate control system. The solar roof is capable of generating a half kilowatt-hour a day[28] and was estimated to provide up to 4 to 5 miles (6.4–8.0 km) of additional range a week assuming continuously sunny days;[29] however, the solar panels as delivered only recharge the 12-volt lead-acid accessory battery.[30]
thats 5 year old tech. Solar is only getting more efficient. Its still not significant but ill take it.