12v now always on?

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My 12v is staying on since the update with sentry mode, even after I leave the car and it locks...is this normal? Is there a way to turn it off?
 

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this has been noted since the earlier 2019.x firmware releases. It will time out after a few minutes.
how long is a few minutes? i've left the car for at least 15 minutes since the update and come back to the outlet still on...
 

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how long is a few minutes? i've left the car for at least 15 minutes since the update and come back to the outlet still on...
Do you have Sentry on? I don't think it shuts off the 12V with Sentry on. With Sentry the car doesn't sleep and it needs to have constant power to the USB flash drive.

With Sentry off it should shut off the 12V when the car goes to sleep, about 5 minutes.
https://teslaownersonline.com/threa...-2019-5-4-4c3c414-2-22-2019.11402/post-208287
 

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Do you have Sentry on? I don't think it shuts off the 12V with Sentry on. With Sentry the car doesn't sleep and it needs to have constant power to the USB flash drive.

With Sentry off it should shut off the 12V when the car goes to sleep, about 5 minutes.
https://teslaownersonline.com/threa...-2019-5-4-4c3c414-2-22-2019.11402/post-208287
i don't have it turned on, no...i'm wondering if leaving the onyx powered on is causing it to stay active, which is bad. i definitely left the car for more than five minutes twice tonight, and both times came back to the onyx still being powered on.
 

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Yup my dash cam likes to stay on now, I have it plugged into the 12v. I haven’t checked since the 5.15 update though.
 

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I just got 5.15 this morning. The cig lighter behavior is different as it doesn’t turn off immediately when you close the doors. But I can confirm that it does eventually power off. I have my Valentine 1 plugged into the cig lighter. When the car goes to sleep, after about 5-10 min, the lights on the detector go off and when you open the door it does it’s boot up sequence. FYI this is with sentry mode off. I have not tested to see what happens with sentry mode on.
 

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I've noticed that after I use Sentry Mode that once I start the car, the Max360 needs to be manually turned on...which might mean that the Max360 is timing out with the 12v outlet powered (using Sentry).
 

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I've noticed that after I use Sentry Mode that once I start the car, the Max360 needs to be manually turned on...which might mean that the Max360 is timing out with the 12v outlet powered (using Sentry).
That’s interesting. I’m guessing the max360 uses an electronic switch to turn on and off. I shouldn’t have that problem with my V1 since it uses a mechanical knob.
 

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I believe the Escort brand detectors have a time-out feature of 4 hours. I'm going to have to remember to turn off my detector when I get to work (with Sentry Mode on) and then remember to turn it back on when I leave for home (this one is important to remember!)
 

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has anyone that pulled the console to add new power ports checked to see if the 12v source in the kick panel is still switched as soon as you leave the car, or if that exhibits the same behavior? if that one is still switched on exit i may have to expedite my pulling the console to add that second 12v outlet...
 

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Is it possible the car just happened to be awake for other reasons? Mine always stays awake for a couple hours directly following an update, I guess uploading logs or doing who knows what.
 

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nope, it's definitely staying on and not timing out. i parked in my garage over 45 minutes ago, just went out and checked...my onyx is still powered on. ugh...why must they always change stuff like this without considering consequences?
 
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I have tied in additional outlets into the console wiring (behind the kick panel) and since the update I did last night the power is always on and does not time out. Validated by looking into the car without unlocking to see my radar detector still on 9 hours later.
 

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I have 5.15 and I’m using the 12v from the driver side left kick panel to run my radar detector and dashcam. Both turn off as soon as I close my door just like they’ve done previously. Sentry Mode is off.
thank you! to verify, you're talking about the wire shown in this video?

 

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I have tied in additional outlets into the console wiring (behind the kick panel) and since the update I did last night the power is always on and does not time out. Validated by looking into the car without unlocking to see my radar detector still on 9 hours later.
which wire did you use to draw power? i want to make sure i'm using the right one, as the reply below yours seems to indicate there is indeed at least one power source that will shut off when the driver exits the car...